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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-02-24 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #1879 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1879 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Dain Curse by Dashiell Hammett]


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03.
[Matilda]


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04.
[Person of Interest]


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[Boston Public]


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[Rideback]


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[The Office (UK)/Harry Potter]


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08.
[Inspector Lynley Mysteries]


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[Prince of Cats]


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10. [personal attack]


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[Misfits]


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[Smash]


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[Hetalia]


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[Shadow of the Colossus]


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[Dragon Age]


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[Zack Snyder]


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[Kill Bill]


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[askandroidwheatley/Wheatley (Portal 2)]


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19. [repeat]


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[TGWTG, Todd in the Shadows]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Hyvät ja huonot uutiset]


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[MLP: FiM]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Katekyo Hitman Reborn!]


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[How I Met Your Mother]


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[Castle]


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[Amanda Palmer]


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[Katawa Shoujo]


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[Homestuck]


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[Evangelion]


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32. [SPOILERS for Salt and TGWTDT]



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33. [SPOILERS for Katawa Shoujo]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for incest]



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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for incest]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for child abuse]

[DC comics/DCAU]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #268.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-02-24 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
23. http://i.imgur.com/JGL1i.gif
[MLP: FiM]

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2012-02-24 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I do love Ditzy Doo as the character fandom sets her up as, when fandom's not being offensive about it.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Her name is Derpy, not Ditzy Doo.

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(Anonymous) 2012-02-24 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
So, what, my choices are disclosing my disability to strangers who, frankly, I don't trust at this point not to be awful about it, or not talking about how seriously fucking hurtful some of the ways fandom deals with symptoms that I experience daily are? You do at least realize those are some pretty messed up expectations, right?

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
You have another option. it's called STOP BEING BUTTHURT

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(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
But what if you DO have a disability and issues with with the character? As some people do (I don't know how many - I don't really follow the fandom).

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that was the point. I think that's perfectly okay and reasonable. I think OP's point was that if you don't have a disability and found it offensive, you should back up and let the people who it is actually affecting have a voice.

At least... That's what I got out of it.

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[identity profile] khandreia.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I'm sort of disabled (since not everyone seems to agree on whether Asperger's Syndrome is really a disability or not), and I don't have any issue with Derpy/Ditzy/whatever you want to call her. Really, I think there are a lot worse things they could've done with her, and I think a lot of people are getting worked up over something that's, in my opinion, not really a big deal at all.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I don't watch MLP, but I saw a clip of the char in question and I thought she was just clumsy.

I thought it was cute, nothing about her struck me as offensive. (I'm learning now that "derp" is deemed ableist, though)

I mostly thought she was cute in that clip, mostly because goddamn I have this tendency to bump into things (mostly corners. I guess I turn too close and I hit corners like daily)

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[identity profile] mskye.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahaha oh man what were they thinking calling her "Derpy" in the actual show? Accusations of it being an ableist slur aside, it's just a fucking horrible pony name. Ditzy Doo, Bright Eyes, or even Bubbles would have been so much better TBH.

[identity profile] gabrielsoboe.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Bright Eyes would've been an adorable name to call her. :3

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(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I've had strabismus since I was born. if antone should be offended, it's me. yet I'm not. I don't get the whole big deal about it

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(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
FiM fanon is always terrible
especially with the pointless background characters

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
"Ditzy" sounds more offensive than "Derpy" IMO! I'm just wondering how many people would've been butthurt if her name WAS Ditzy because she's blonde and the whole "Blondes are ditzy" stereotype. I think that would've been worse! I kinda wish she just hadn't been named at all.

[identity profile] dinerstate.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Man, it bothers me when people make 'derp/derpy' an ablesist thing. It's a term that's been around for quite some time, and I think South Park popularized it. (It may have been in Baseketball too but it's been years since I've seen it.) 'Derp' originated, I'm pretty sure, as a sort of self-depreciating term, something you say and kind of roll your eyes at yourself when you mess up or do something silly. Like a self-facepalm, really. So it's pretty appropriate that a clumsy but well-intentioned character is named Derpy. It's kind of a goofy name, of course, and sure Ditzy would have fit too, but I've never once seen it as some ableist term. My derpy little cat and I would love to know where that came from.

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(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
The vast majority of MLP:FiM fanon is utter shit, tbh.
And god help you if you dare to have a personal headcanon that's different from fanon.

[identity profile] cakemage.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Well, glad to know I have your permission to be pissed off about an ableist ascended meme. I knew there had to be an upside to being disabled.

[identity profile] otakugal15.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, most of the people I know HATED her canon scene, but LOVE her to pieces.

None of us want her gone, nonny. Bronies think we do, but we don't. We just want her treated RIGHT.

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(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I don't follow this series, but from the secret you seem to be saying that you guys like to make fun of retarded people using this fanon character, but no one's allowed to be offended unless you say so?

Sorry, but I don't respect your opinion about this unless you're disabled. Go on. Tell me and all the internet about your personal issues and maybe I'll grace you with my approval.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
I am amazed at the amount of people who rage over terminology, and what does or does not count as offensive, or "abelist". It has been my personal experience, that the vast majority of people who become most offend by "abelist language", turn out to have no kind of disability (physical or mental) themselves whatsoever. I myself have Cerebral Palsy and use a wheelchair, on top of several other things. Oy. I do refer to myself as a "cripple", and yes I've even called myself "derpy." [I get muscle spasms that sometimes affect my face] Whenever I use these words to refer to myself, the ~only~ people who take offense, are those who are not disabled. While those friends I have that are themselves disable, never even bat an eyelash. My disabled friends are right there, laughing along, and making fun of themselves as well.

[identity profile] shesaspider.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Hasbro's changed her voice and edited out her name, and they fixed her eyes.

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[identity profile] nomorenoodles.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 09:44 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what everyone was freaking out about. I got the impression she was simply clumsy (and didn't know her own strength when sitting down). Being clumsy isn't a mental disorder: dyspraxia is, but I have a friend who's dispraxic and he wouldn't find a cute, clumsy pony offensive. Although I guess I could see why some more sensitive could, but there was no hint that Derpy was indeed dyspraxic. I didn't find anything wrong with her voice, either.

Now we'll never get a cute Derpy scene again because the fandom ruined everything. That's what you get if you pander to the fans, it seems. I thought the scene was a really cute nod to the periphery demographic, but some people are just never happy.

[identity profile] corvigryph.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm.... I'm transfixed by this secret *watches for four hours*

[identity profile] genolover.livejournal.com 2012-02-26 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
This was such a huge issue on Tumblr (one of the places where social justice and discussions about things like ableism are very present). Although I can understand why people may have found the combination of Derpy's name, looks and Forest Gump-y sort of speaking offensive, I do think that nowadays people should back-up and mellow out a bit.

There have been silly/clumsy/stupid/slow cartoon characters since the dawn of cartoon time. In my opinion, Derpy was a bit of a pony-fied version of Dopey (another name that is now iffy if you consider the rise of 'ableist slurs'). Clumsy and unfortunate, but still trying to be earnest and helpful. Same goes for Goofy or Stimpy or Ed from Ed, Edd 'n Eddy and many others. I have yet to find an article or a blog post where Dopey or Goofy is considered harmful or offensive or a bad example to children (the latter being a reason why people had such a problem with Derpy since MLP is a show that is supposed to teach children things). Could be that I am not looking in the right place.