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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-08-04 03:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2041 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you, OP. Been there with Catholicism, and while fandom had nothing to do with my leaving it, I still know how hard a decision like that is. You're an amazing person for doing it. Rock on.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you. :)

[personal profile] quinnzel 2012-08-04 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This secret is full of rad. That's awesome for you, OP!

[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-08-04 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Good for you OP. I have a friend that had to make the same decision, and she struggled with it for a really long time.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, Twilight is about Mormons...? I thought it was about vampires...? Or are the vampires Mormon...?

SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
The author is Mormon and the whole series is a huge piece of propaganda for Mormon values.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
The author of Twilight is Mormon (or raised Mormon, I forget if she still identifies as) and if you look at it through that lens it actually has a lot of Mormon ideas and themes within the story.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Stephenie Meyer is Mormon, and I'm reasonably certain it's very, VERY heavily influenced the happenings in the series.

I think. Someone with more knowledge of the series might be better suited to answer this. I pussied out three chapters into the second book. xD
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[personal profile] ooh_mrdarcy 2012-08-04 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
SMeyer is Mormon. Things really make sense in the books once you know what everything's about. I'm not an expert though so there might be some mistakes.

For example:
• No premarital sex.
• Bella leaving her dad to go live with the Cullens after marriage. (Once a girl marries, she leaves her family so she can be with the husband's family.)
• Vampires are beautiful, gorgeous and amazingly white. People who turn into vampires get whiter skin in the books; I think there were POC in the movies. (Mormons believe that only white people go to Heaven, because they're "pure" and therefore perfect. Darker skin means you're dirty and a sinner. If you're black, sucks to be you.)
• There's no logical reason as to why Bella gets pregnant, until you remember that SMeyer is Mormon. (If you're a woman, you need to give birth so you can get access to Heaven. I think? Or was it that you don't get to see your family and loved ones in heaven if you don't have kids? My details are a little fuzzy on this one. But basically to be a perfect woman, you need to give birth.)
• The "vegetarian" vampires. (No scary stories for Mormons, y'all.)
• Jacob falls in love with a baby. (SMeyer herself was "introduced" to her husband when she was 4-years-old.)

There were other things, but atm these are the ones that come to mind.
Edited 2012-08-04 22:46 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't forget that in Eclipse when Bella wants to have sex but Edward refuses, he says his reasons are "because I want to keep you pure".
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[personal profile] n7of9 2012-08-05 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Mormons believe that only white people go to Heaven, because they're "pure" and therefore perfect

of all the freaky shit i've heard about this religion, i did NOT know that

*off to share the info with my bff whose daughter-in-law, and therefore grandson, recently decided they are mormons*

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-05 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Twilight is truly, truly terrible for a lot of reasons beyond the ones you listed here, but not all of the items you listed are Mormon beliefs. Neither race nor sex any bearing on your standing before God; the LDS scriptures specifically state that ALL people are alike unto Him and are invited to come unto Him and partake of all the blessings He offers.

2 Nephi 26:33: "For none of these iniquities come of the Lord; for he doeth that which is good among the children of men; and he doeth nothing save it be plain unto the children of men; and he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile."

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(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
A review about Twilight from an ex-Mormon:

http://stoney321.livejournal.com/317176.html

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[personal profile] mollywobbles867 2012-08-05 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
The first of a series of posts about LDS and Twilight: http://stoney321.livejournal.com/317176.html

Written by a former Mormon and she breaks it all down. Some of it is reaching, but most of it makes complete sense.

OP

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[personal profile] elaminator 2012-08-04 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you, OP.
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-08-04 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It's always hard to let go of values you've been taught you should hold.

I have no opinion one way or the other of Twilight, but I really admire it when people are willing to question things they are taught. Especially when they're things people are encouraged not to question, and from what I've heard questioning is really frowned upon in Mormonism.

Good luck finding what fits and nourishes you going forward, OP!

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-08-04 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm happy someone got something positive out of those books.

You are not alone. I was raised in a cult and fandom was the only link I had to the outside world and that's where I learned that there wasn't anything wrong with me and the way I felt.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
When you say "cult" do you literally mean a cult or a very religious upbringing? Just curious.

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[personal profile] maryaminx 2012-08-05 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Eek. My upbringing was seriously cult-like and fandom was my window out as well, but I can't even imagine. *thumbs up*
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[personal profile] ooh_mrdarcy 2012-08-04 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You're pretty awesome, OP.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-04 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you, OP. I'm glad you were able to make such a big decision.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-05 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Grats OP. Though that website is a cesspool of awful. The rude cliques and harassing of people turned me off of it.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-05 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Glad to hear it OP - from another anon who left Catholic church (but also for not fandom-y reasons).

(Anonymous) 2012-08-05 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Good for you, anon. I hope you're doing ok and have friends who are supporting you.