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[ SECRET POST #2180 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2180 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Fraiser]

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[Homestuck]

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[Kili/The Hobbit]

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09. [SPOILERS for the Walking Dead]

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10. [SPOILERS for How I Met Your Mother]

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11. [SPOILERS for Rise of the Guardians]

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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]

12. [WARNING for abuse]

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13. [WARNING for rape, noncon]

[American Horror Story Asylum]

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14. [WARNING for rape]

[MLP: FiM]

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15. [WARNING for rape]

[Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen]

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16. [WARNING for suicide]

[Doctor Who]

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17. [WARNING for rape]

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18. [WARNING for IRL murder/shootings]

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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That's nice, doesn't stop the fact that it happened. Would you like a recap? An underaged girl was forced into giving a very popular Brony a blowjob in her truck because he. refused. to. leave. it. The bronies (and there were A LOT of them hon) then started sending her death threats when she came out about it. They called her a ton of filthy names like "slut" and "whore", as well as a constantly stream of "Oh, she was asking for it!" and you know what his excuse was? "Baww, my dick was hard, I couldn't help myself! ;^;"

This is why Bronies are filth.

What happened is despicable beyond description and unforgivable. But not all the Bronies in the world were in that van nor have they all been involved in the victim blaming.

Then stop whining about how everyone hates the poooooor maligned broooonies and start chasing out the assholes who give your fandom a bad name.

Because all you're doing now is trying to deflect attention from the fact that a GIRL WAS RAPED AND PEOPLE ARE DEFENDING HER RAPIST.

Why should I have any sympathy for bronies and their precious reputation when something that awful happens to someone?

*sigh* Where exactly do you propose we go to do that? Most of us don't hang out in those places. We're just speaking up about what we see going on *here*.

Believe me, if I were there when that happened, I would be all over that shit, calling them out and denouncing that atrocity.

Fandom is huge and diverse and there is NO WAY we can chase out ALL the assholes. Most people realize that all fandoms have dark, shitty corners. This isn't to say we shouldn't try, but it's NEVER going to be perfect. Painting everyone with the same shitty brush is still an irresponsible way to approach the situation, in my opinion.

By the way, if you're so angry - and you definitely should be, I am too - about what happened, why don't you stop arguing with and talking down people here and instead go over to wherever it is this happened and complain? Isn't that kind of what you're saying to ayrt?

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You DO realize that these things aren't mutually exclusive, right? You can do both of those things at the same time. It's the Internet. You don't have to choose between advocating against rape, especially rape in fandom, and advocating against prejudicial treatment of the many based on the actions of a few.

And there are a lot other bronies... hon. Still doesn't change MY point. That that was a single, less than intelligent, part of the fandom. And your bronies are filth only proves me right. That you're using that part of the fandom as a sample of the whole, which is at best inaccurate and at worst willfully ignorant. I don't know anything about what happened than what you've told me and frankly I don't WANT to know. I've learned way too much about the absolute awfulness humankind is capable of to want to spend my Christmas break looking up more. But you know what? That will never make me think all humans, or even most of them are awful. Same with bronies, for the most part, it has been one of the kindest, sanest, most welcoming fandoms I have ever had the pleasure to be associated with. Want some examples? Go to the following links and read the Miscellaneous folders.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Awesome/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Heartwarming/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic
My apologies for sending you to the internet's timesink, finding and compiling more examples takes more time than I'm willing to justify spending on an online argument over fandom. Do us both a favor, take your head out of your ass, read the examples, maybe watch an episode of the show if you hadn't already and spend some time in the non awful parts of the fandom. Three guesses what I'm going to do. Who knows, you might just learn something.

Over and out for good.

"Over and out for good."

Good, because you obviously have no idea what you're talking about and seem incapable of grasping the fact that there are MUCH bigger social problems being brought up here.

the fact that rape is being brought up does not mean that other "less important" social issues should not be discussed at the same time, like the issue of prejudice. you remind me of those people who try to say that "unless you are a queer, disabled, PoC woman who survived rape, you do not have a right to complain about anything".

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Ah ha ha using TV Tropes to defend yourself is not helping. (Hint: Tropes has a its own terrible problems, not unlike bronies, actually.)

Look, all fandoms have their terrible members, yes, but you know what the difference between most of them (barring some extreme cases like Homestuck, Hetalia, etc.)?

That all those fandoms try their hardest to kick those terrible members and refuse to be associated with them.

The bronies do the complete opposite: they try so hard to not shun others and to welcome and tolerate everyone that all the dregs from the other fandoms have gravitated to brony fandom and found a place that didn't kick them out for being terrible. (Same problem as TV Tropes, actually, which is why your links made my irony-meter explode.)

And then what? The sane fans leave. So all that remains is the terrible members and the fans that are in denial or simply don't know better.

Because everyone insists on "letting be" the other fans, instead of punishing them and then kicking them out if they don't shape up. Like a healthy society would.

...I can't speak for the Homestuck fan because I'm not in it, but the Hetalia fandom is VERY loud about renouncing extremely terrible fans.

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I've seen some Homestuck-related blogs dedicated to stopping and calling out the physical harassment cosplayers have gotten at conventions (like people getting buckets thrown at them), so there is some degree of that 'kicking out' in HS fandom.

But overall, I agree with you.

Bronies only "love and tolerate" those who tow the fandom line. Anyone who speaks out otherwise on even the most menial of issues gets dogpiled and any and all pretense of 'love and tolerance' gets thrown out the window. And the whole 'Derpygate' crap... man, when you've got two people (maybe more) from the show telling the fandom to lay off of the hideous personal attacks on one person (I ain't a fan of Yamino at all, but she didn't deserve that), you know things are beyond rotten and/or salvaging when it comes to a fandom.

Don't tell me "but I can't do anything, they're the bad ones, not me"!

Link to events like this to all your sane brony friends. Spread the word.

Make a ruckus out of every single one of these events, where a brony is racist, or sexist, or a rape apologist, or transphobic, or homophobic, and so on.

Make the publicity so big, so insiduous, that there is not a single corner of the fandom that hasn't heard about it.

This way the perpetrators will be shamed until they either learn that this shit is not okay or until they simply give up and leave the fandom. Then you will have a fandom that you can be proud of, a fandom of good standing.

Here, let me help you get started:

http://bronysay.tumblr.com/

http://brony-horror-stories.tumblr.com/

http://sanemlpfans.tumblr.com/

http://rabididiotbrony.tumblr.com/

http://prejudiceismagic.tumblr.com/

http://fuck--no--my--little--pony.tumblr.com/

http://www.dailydot.com/society/5-signs-fading-fandom-my-little-pony/

Here is the event from the secret, copy pasted in a forum (the original tumblr post appears to be gone):

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3493184&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=393#post407437598

More bronies being terrible:

http://sporkbot.tumblr.com/post/29863949432/love-and-tolerance

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3493184&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=262#post406634783

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3493184&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=370#post407283460

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3493184&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=262#post406631791

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3493184&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=372#post407292119

There, now you have no excuse. If you want your fandom to get better, you have to go and make it be better. Or else resign yourself to being painted by the same brush by virtue of standing by and doing nothing while your fellow fans do things like these.

here, more about Max Veer (the rapist of the secret)

http://knowyourmeme.com/forums/general/topics/16766-kym-pony-general-vi-return-of-the-poni?page=72

You're the most beautiful person in this thread jsyk

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I kind of had trouble taking the second blog seriously after this:

http://brony-horror-stories.tumblr.com/post/38453780548/why-i-cant-see-this-fandom-in-the-same-way-again

Dude, what? This person actually believe shit like, "Pinkie Pie is trying to murder us" and "Equestria being engulfed by an evil spell and Molestia being a cruel evil ruler?" They fell for idiotic tricks involving completely fictional characters?

It's not just the "brony" who's a waste of oxygen in that one.

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Thank you for those links, seriously.

I agree that we do need to call out this shit. "Love and tolerance" has been warped into "never hold anyone responsible for anything" if anything it should be applied to simple things like "he/she has a different headcanon than me" and not "oh they committed rape? well they're still a fan love and tolerate"

Perhaps we could start a group to call attention to these attitudes and fight them and call out people when we see them being misogynistic and obnoxious. It might be kind of scary to stand up to these people if they're vicious, but if we let them do whatever they want. We can't just sit around and excuse people being asshats. If someone does something awful like Veers did we should let him know what he did was wrong , not make excuses for him and certainly not let him make excuses for himself. Hold people to the rules of common decency.

though I know people are afraid that this could turn into canon police type thing and yeah that would be bad if it got out of control to where people were attacking and doing "callouts" for simple difference oof opinion (and before you scoff- I was in a fandom with 'fandom police'. Yes it got out of control. No it was not fun) The important thing is that we remember why we're doing this in the first place. Not because we want to control everyone but because we don't want people to think we're okay with the awful things that have been done in the past.

We want people in this fandom to know that we're not going to back up shitty disgusting behavior because they're a fellow fan.

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Good post anon.

If people don't want to be tarred with the same brush, maybe they should actually speak out and make a fuss in the Brony fandom rather than going "But we're not ALL like that!"

Yeah, well. You're not doing shit except to shove it to the side and ignore it. Don't want to be judged for being a Brony? Show that the Brony community won't tolerate rape.

or so she claimed

No. No, please, don't even go there.

so we're just supposed to take her word for it

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I'm pretty sure he admitted that he forced her into it, but used some piss-poor excuse for why it totally wasn't his fault.

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you are fucking scum.

Oh my god, really?! THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THE COMMENT!

You're judging a mass,huge fandom on a creepy fucking asshole that raped a little girl and the creepy fucking assholes that defended the creepy rape asshole!?

Hey guys: My Little Pony is a massive, mega fandom. There's going to be stuff like this. I'm pretty sure Star Wars, Star Trek, and Comics have their share of rape stories and people who victim blame. I'm pretty damn sure I've read Harry Potter fandom having this before. (OH god, do not get me started on Thanefiction's creepy ass. D:)

Does that mean we condom what happen? Fuck no. It's disgusting and it's fandom showing its ugly, misogynistic head. But I'm honestly getting sick of MLP getting targeted as "where the scum are." No. I've found that the massive fandom at large are A) mostly female and B)a bunch of really good awesome people.

Sorry, I'm just honestly getting sick of MLP getting all this shit thrown towards it as the "where the scum live" when it is a very small portion of a much larger community.

do not get me started on Thanefiction's creepy ass.

I've never heard of this person...dare I ask what happened? 0_0

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