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Troy/Britta

*spoilers*

She spent the whole last episode trying to help Troy win his "boyfriend" back from someone he met on the internet, while using the word boyfriend twice, and no one involved disputed the word boyfriend, or has ever disputed the term boyfriend when related to Troy and Abed.'

Troy and Britta aren't compatible and all of their relationshippy interactions are terribly unhealthy. JUST LET IT DIE FOR EVERYONE'S SAKE.

Yes, fuck. I watched the ep and I think if it didn't have the whole britta/troy thing I would've enjoyed it, but their relationship is just... egh. They have no chemistry, and while it is nice the writers are trying to stay away from the 'girlfriend comes in between two best friends' cliche, swinging the pendulum all the way over to the point where Troy constantly prioritizes Abed over Britta to the point where he said she could just wait in the car so Abed could have his happy fun time is just insane. Like, really... it just feels like they hooked them up and then completely forgot where they were going with that so now they have to awkwardly force it into eps.

Yep. The writers haven't accepted that they can't have their cake and eat it too, basically. They want Troy to have a girlfriend so he can. . .idk become a man? Look more heterosexual? I have no clue what the point is, but anyway Troy and Abed are so close and the writers don't want to break that up because it's been one of the bedrocks of the show for three years that they choose each other over anyone else always, which. . .you can't do if you're dating someone else. When you date someone right, you're supposed to put them first or at least on equal/almost equal footing as your best friend. Abed is like sky high priority and Britta barely registers and it's just not good. If you want Troy and Abed to be soulmates like they have been and like they will be for the foreseeable future, they're just really bad relationship material for anyone but each other, and especially Britta because the way she and Troy are written makes them look terribly incompatible and unhealthy for each other.

Right now it just seems like Troy and Britta are fucking and Troy and Abed are the ones who are actually dating and it's. . .strange.

It has been so long since the end of season 3, I can't remember: did Troy and Britta get together then? Because it seemed completely out of the blue to me when S4 started. Maybe my memory just sucks?

No, they didn't. They were sort of flirting towards the end of it and there was a whole thing where that episode with Blade the ~evil~ boyfriend from Britta's past came along and Troy was the ~nice guy~ who would save her from herself (even though Troy is mean to her? STUFF MAKES NO SENSE) and then in the First Chang Dynasty she gave him a lock of her hair and kissed his cheek and then she greeted him with a hug when he came back from AC repair school so = love? They also flirted or something sometimes during season 3 I guess.

It was implied that they started dating in the interim between seasons 3 and 4. Jeff points it out in History 101 saying that "that's progressed."

Mostly though Troy and Britta came out of nowhere and have foundations of nothing. TPTB just want Troy to fuck a lady and since Britta no longer has a love interest I guess she needs one, and Jeff is gonna be with Annie or something so. . .Troy? I don't get it, but whatever.

Okay, so

I read this and I saw *spits* instead of *spoilers* and assumed you must really really really hate this pairing

Troy/Britta

*SPITS*

Well, I do really really really hate this pairing so that would probably be accurate.

But I don't want to spit at either person in it because the both of them separately are two of my favorite characters :P Love them apart, loathe them together.

Ugh, seriously, I've been trying to be open minded and give it a chance because I too love Troy and Britta a lot individually, but I just don't UNDERSTAND them together. I don't like her having to sneak out to avoid Abed, just so it wouldn't...hurt his feelings, somehow? Yeah, that really bothered me.

ME TOO.

Like, even though I ship Troy and Abed, in my heart I love all three of Troy, Britta, and Abed so I just want all of them to be happy (and Britta Perry is my spirit animal ngl BRITTA/HAPPINESS OTP) and this situation is not working out for anyone. Like, every time I think it's fine, boom nope. This relationship is just not working, the writers have shown over and over that it doesn't work and it has so many unfortunate implications and grossness and ugh. DIE SHIP DIE.

Although how badass were those gymnastics that Britta did to escape Troy's bedroom? I was cheering for her.

I do not know how them having sex would hurt Abed's feelings. I do not understand the love triangle going on there. It is not a good one. MAKE IT STOP.

Britta's THE BEST (and I guess that's one things this season has going for it, thus far: she hasn't been called or implied to be THE WORST yet, or at least that I remember). And I've kind of been rationalizing it as a make believe relationship on both their sides: Troy's making a last-ditch attempt to be "normal" and get with The Hot Chick (and he really does like Britta, so it helps), despite his real concern being for Abed, and Britta's trying to have a relationship with a Nice Guy and not make it all weird (and she also really likes Troy, and doesn't have to worry about damaging him emotionally, because all of his energy is focused on Abed's well being). So they're like, both subconsciously pretending it's a real relationship but the only real part of is the sex, otherwise they're just friends.

But that's how I justify it to myself. Cynically, I feel like there's a certain amount of covering to make sure they've got heterosexual cover for Troy (Abed can be weird and asexual, but they can't BOTH be unattached and that close to each other, that'd be gay).

OH MY GOD ANON LET'S BE BESTIES I BASICALLY HAVE THE SAME HEADCANONS.

Like both of them are sort of trying to figure out who they are and part of that was "well this person's hot, let's try to be normal and see how it goes" and then the sex was really good so now they're in a relationship and they've been in it a bit too long. But neither of them are attached to it like at all. I feel like even if their breakup was explosive over something or other they would go back to being friends within a few days because neither of them seem to care about it all that much.

Troy and Britta are way better as friends. Some people just are, and that's totally ok. I thought all of the friendshippy "hey let's help Troy win his boyfriend over" stuff was endearing, but again didn't read as like a girlfriend thing. They just kind of seem like people who are in a relationship when all they really want to be is fuck buddies.

I think when Troy admits to himself that being in a relationship with two people just isn't working out (whenever that is) and Britta realizes that she doesn't need a man as a part of her life to feel like she's on track as an adult, Troy and Abed will get together and Britta will hang out with them and everyone will have fun times.

It's so weird how the writers treat Troy/Abed though, like, really weird. I don't think I've ever seen a non-canon baity slash pairing where the someone has called them boyfriends and they didn't go "no you don't understand it's Guy Love (tm)" Troy and Abed just. . .go along with it. The messages are so mixed Dx When do I just count it canon? Last season?

LOL, we've totally talked about Britta/Troy before, too. We should definitely be besties.

It's like, if both Troy and Britta were in different places, I would be totally cool with them just being fuckbuddies. Actually I am totally cool with them just being fuckbuddies, I just wish THE SHOW would stop presenting it as Finally Britta's With A Good Guy and/or Finally Troy's Become A Man With A Real Girlfriend. Like you said, Troy has in the past treated Britta pretty shittily, depending on the episode, and it's not like Britta's the first Real Girlfriend Troy's had (I think the writers sometimes forget/ignore the fact that he was, like, the super-popular jock back in high school).

The way Troy and Abed are presented is definitely weird. I'm not 100% sure I even ship them sexually, but I definitely see them as soulmates, and I think they definitely see each other as soul mates: they're these two people who never really had someone who understood them, who never really got to be themselves and be accepted for it by anyone, until they met each other.

I feel like the writers tried to build a similar dynamic with Troy and Britta for a while at the tail end of last season, by making them both out to be kind of ditzy, but that was never really the point of Britta, and Troy's...not 100% that either. IDK, it just makes me really uncomfortable, the way they got shoved together beyond just the physical attraction, which I totally get, because they are both attractive people.

Well, hit me up anytime, anon, here or in my PM box. I love talking to other fans, probably more than I should.

Although I might not be as responsive this week as I would be others because I am moving on Saturday.

I am totally cool with them being fuck buddies! Britta has had a fuck buddy before, and Troy is in a perfect place to have a fuck buddy. I am great with them being good friends looking for a good time, and I am good with the idea that maybe Troy and Abed need a little space even to allow themselves to breathe and their relationship to mature. I am all over that.

I am not ok with what we're getting though. This relationship is uneven and unhealthy. Terrible partners, great as friends. Their relationship makes me uncomfortable and I have probably written what amounts to several papers in emails and various fandom spaces as to exactly why I hate Troy/Britta and the insidious and obvious ways in which is sucks, fails, and needs to die.

Troy and Abed are soulmates, and I don't care how they're together, but the show needs to stop fucking around and just GO WITH THEM BEING SOULMATES. If they're not sexual, that's fine, have them have fuck buddies or something, but they are not compatible for a relationship with anyone but each other right now, and maybe not ever.

I was confused about how Troy went from "what is this swing" to having sex with Britta in the next ep. Like the whole previous ep seemed to be about Troy not knowing anything about sex and then suddenly he's been having sex with Britta for weeks. Did I miss something?

Having said that, I like Britta and Troy, but more as besties.

I think Troy more didn't know about BDSM and he was offended by the idea that Shirley assumed he didn't know how to please Britta just because he didn't understand certain aspects of non-vanilla sex.

No, you didn't miss anything. I think it's just a product of what way you read between the lines and of how the writers really don't seem sure at this point in the season what stories they want to tell with these characters.

I like Britta and Troy too as besties. I thought the meat of the episode with them was pretty great. But all of their relationshippy stuff has squicked me out in various ways.

I thought Troy and Britta were cute when they were just flirting but I think Community works better when there aren't canon couples within the group.

Like they are trying to push Jeff and Annie together it seems and it's been said time and time again within the show just how unhealthy that is.

This is where I miss Harmon though, he didn't mind hooking up characters but you wouldn't see them seriously trying to have a relationship.

Yeah, it's starting to really bother me the way they're handling it, and I have no idea where they're going with it. I mean, everyone refers to Troy and Abed as each other's boyfriend constantly and neither corrects them, and Abed obviously comes first for Troy, even before his supposed "girlfriend". And the whole Toby thing genuinely came across as if Britta and Troy were friends and Troy and Abed were the ones in the relationship. Like you said, Troy and Abed are clearly supposed to be soulmates (and there was the whole glue picture thing and Troy said it just didn't feel right doing it with Britta)and the show wants to have their cake and eat it too, by portraying Abed/Troy/Bitta as a legimitate love triangle, but I can't see them ever actually going there with Troy/Abed, so I'm not sure what the point is. I've always thought the Troy/Abed was the pairing that was closest to canon without anyone explicitly stating it that I've ever seen, and I agree with you that I can't see either of them in a (successful) relationship with anyone else, so I wish they'd just go ahead and put them together and end all this Troy/Britta stuff, and but unfortunately I just don't think they will (although I'd love to be wrong about that, obviously!)

And I'm probably not even making sense, because this pairing makes it hard for me to think properly, but yes. I totally agree with you!

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