[ SECRET POST #2251 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2251 ⌋

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Comments

[philstar22]

The Boob song was annoying and I don't get how that was supposed to be funny.. But what I found really offensive were the domestic violence jokes. And the jokes about George Clooney having sex with that girl from Beasts of the Southern Wild. Jokes about domestic violence and child abuse are not funny. Ever.

[otakugal15]

He was making a dig at Clooney, not the little girl. It was pointing out Clooney's creepy thing o dating women who are usually in their 20s.

[sugar_spun]

Yeah, I'm gonna agree here. I think people are undermining their point when they try to say he was making a joke that was referencing child abuse. I found maybe two of his jokes funny, but he was clearly making a joke at how Clooney dated girls half his age.

[philstar22]

Doesn't matter. Still a joke about child molestation and still not funny.

[(Anonymous)]

um I thought he was terrible and not funny but No. That joke was not about child abuse. It was about George Clooney/other actors only being interested in women under the age of 25. There are a lot of years between the age of consent and 25 and the joke wasn't suggesting that 9 was included. Stop reaching. It's not necessary, there was enough shit wrong with his hosting gig, we don't need to reach for more.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm usually the first to scream over any hint of abuse toward children but please misinterpret harder, sweetie. Whatever makes you feel more self-important and smart.

[visp]

I agree that the boob song was especially in bad taste, since some of the "boob" scenes were rape scenes. That being said, I have no problem with people giving Chris and Rhianna shit about their behavior.

[philstar22]

Rihanna is an abuse victim. Yes, she chose to go back to him. Abuse victims often do. He's still the one who should get all the blame. And joking about domestic violence is still not funny, no matter the context.

[(Anonymous)]

No one is biting. Take your agenda elsewhere.

[(Anonymous)]

This is not fanficrants, it is F!S.

Easy mistake to make.

[fae_boleyn]

I found the boob song to be more about making fun of Hollywood and fetishized scenes of women naked regardless of why they're naked - especially since the reaction shots were fake, having been pre-taped. Doesn't mean it's not problematic, but I didn't think it was the women or the scenes themselves that were the target. Still not the best way to go about it if I'm right about the goal, though, even if the goal was to point out this Hollywood trend in a funny way.

[visp]

Nah, that's too meta. It was just McFarlane singing about boobs.

[(Anonymous)]

"Funny" is subjective. Do you want to argue that they are never appropriate?

[mekkio]

The Boob song was annoying and I don't get how that was supposed to be funny.

The whole song WAS supposed to be offensive. That was the joke. That he did this song in the alternative future and it was so wrong that he was declared the worst host ever. The song in itself wasn't supposed to be funny. It was that he was such a jackass for doing it in the first place. And all those reaction shots of the actresses he mentioned in the song? They were pretaped. They were in on the joke. That's why Theron was shown giving a reaction shot in one style dress and hair style and then not even a minute later comes on stage in a completely different dress and hair style.

[wingedthing]

Thank you. I've been waiting all week for someone who isn't me to have also picked up on this.

[(Anonymous)]

But...that doesn't make it better.

Saying, "Hey, it sure would be offensive if I do this thing!" doesn't mean that anyone calling you a jackhole after you do that thing is wrong. He did sing a song that inherently sexualized breasts regardless of context (including rape scenes, medical scenes, and in one particular charming case--a literal invasion of someone's actual, in-real-life-not-a-movie privacy involving hacked phones and private photos being spread around on the internet).

That's always been MacFarlane's schtick--the attempted refuge in audacity. The upfront knowledge that he's being offensive, followed by him doing/saying offensive stuff with a great big grin. But the joke is still, "Hey, these actresses here to receive recognition for professional achievement, we saw your boobs, and that is both hilarious and sexual!" Followed by a pretend shake of the finger by Shatner.

Hell, it just reinforces the whole idea of men saying really crappy things to women, but they're just being rascals, so hey!

[citrinesunset]

The fact that it was supposed to be offensive doesn't make it an effective joke, though. And I'm not arguing that it wasn't effective. Personally, I felt like it wasn't because it seemed to hinge too much on the idea that a woman exposing her breasts is shameful. But obviously this is subjective and comes down to taste.

I just don't like it when people act like the fact that something is supposed to be offensive is enough to make it funny. There generally has to be more of a point than "Hey! I just said something that makes me sound like a jackass!"

[lex_antonia]

I don't get why people act like 'it's satire!' is a magical fix-it for everything? There's good satire, and there's bad satire. Good satire has to be marginally cleverer than the thing it takes on, or it is pretty damn pointless. 'Look everyone, we're doing this thing everybody thinks is bad, except WE don't mean it, aren't we smart or what?' isn't enough for me.

I don't find Seth McWhatshisname particularly offensive, actually. He's too basic to give a damn.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh they were pre-taped well that makes it less awkward and more funny to me. Thanks for the info.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem with the boob song was it went on way too long. If it had been a short clip to just show him being a jackass, that would have been funny. But the song just went on and on and on. I was so bored by the end of it.

They turned what should have been a funny joke into something stupid by having it go on for so long.

[otakugal15]

Has anyone also stopped to look up the films and notice that most of them are Oscar winners in some form or were basically Oscar bait?

I mean...he could have mentioned Swordfish instead of Monster's Ball, but he didn't.

He specifically targeted films that were up for nominations of some sort.

And nobody thinks that may be the point? Why did the 4 movies mentioned that have rape scenes NEED for the audience to see their breasts? Why did these movies need that at all?

[miarrow]

Yeah. I really hated the boob song, but those two jokes were what sealed the grossness for me.

[(Anonymous)]

He wasn't making a child abuse joke. He was make a joke about George Clooney's habit of dating women who are a lot younger than himself.

[philstar22]

I'm well aware of it. She is nine, which means it is still a joke about child rape regardless of his intent. He could easily have picked someone who was of age but still young. He chose to make the joke using a child.

[htebazytook]

The boob song wasn't supposed to be funny, it was supposed to be in poor taste, which is what the joke was. Sorry that went over your head

Because no comedian ever has mentioned Chris Brown and Rhianna. Was the Oscars the first time you turned on the TV in the last several years?