ext_33427 ([identity profile] degrees.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-09-06 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #244 ]


⌈ Secret Post #244 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 036 secrets from Secret Submission Post #035.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, [ 1 ] not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Friday, September 7th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] klytaemnestra.livejournal.com 2007-09-06 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)

16. I agree. There are some cosplayers who are so sexy in costume, but out of costume you just stop and wonder what happened. Wigs can do wonders.

36. Oh definitely. I don't understand how Japanese fanartists can post utter crap at times with huge anatomical errors and craptastic lines and it's the most awesome thing ever. Put some effort into your art. I've seen English speaking fanartists be told to clean up their lineart while if someone Japanese does it it's awesome as is. o_O

[identity profile] aviy.livejournal.com 2007-09-06 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
7. I think people want BNF status for popularity, not to have amazing writing/drawing skills.

8. That picture is AMAZING. But american PC/Mac are hotter.

9. Welcome to episode 13 o/
Also, the show isn't about the three of them, it's about Simon's journey to becoming a spacerapist. It says this in the VERY FIRST EPISODE /o/ Not that Kamina's death wasn't horrible and startling and thus completely amazing, but. It's not like they lied to you.

10. All I can do is look at that image and think "That is the most photoshopped flesh ever" =\

18. Oh. Oh my god. J-Japan \o/

28. .......no. no it's not. I was totally with you until you had to say that it's harder because you're working with someone else's characters, as if them being YOUR OWN characters means everything is comparatively clear cut and undebatable. Don't misunderstand, I roleplay my ass off and I have a great deal of appreciation for thinking through character's actions, coming to understand them, figuring out plot, angsting about using other people's characters, wanting to do justice to something you love, wanting others to appreciate it. Certainly good fanfiction is not the work of a moron. But. Creating your own world? Interesting, unique characters? Plot? Timeline? Tying it all together, making it interesting, having the sheer fucking will to sit alone in your room and create something original that no one else in the universe gives a flying fuck about except maybe your mom or best friend? Because everyone and their brother is a 'writing a book'? The terror of putting out there something that is entirely yours and after possibly years of work is also a large part of your soul? Creating 'original' work isn't as simple as grabbing whatever the hell is sitting in your fridge and tossing it together and calling it artwork. Good story, good character, good setting, directing, writing, dialog, world, the sort of stuff that you will one day read and fantasize about and love and want to write good, honorable, beautiful fanfiction for is vastly more work than even a well thought out and well written fanfiction epic.

36. In J-fen's defense, their wtf-scribbles tend to have a lot of. God, I don't even know the word. Movement? Scene. Place. Story. Emotion? Not to say that english-fen doesn't/can't, I personally don't explore much beyond whatever 4chan threads I'm linked to. But the fact that the lines are ugly doesn't mean the art is worthless, I love a lot of wonderful mouseart that evokes. Something. When I think of american oekaki's... okay I don't SEE many american oekaki's, but when I think of sketchy american drawning it's usually character study? But it seems flatter for some reason *shrug* Not to say all jfen art is amazing and all eng-fen isn't, but stereotypes DO exist for a reason. At the same time, it's not like I bother to check that art is done by someone who's japanese before I save it =\

(Anonymous) 2007-09-06 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think your problem is that you admit you haven't seen many english-language fanartists. Just like everyone else who makes such rude generalizations. Sure, there are some that post in comms, but a lot of those artists are terrible. They're whoring their art around because they can't get hits otherwise.

There are AMAZING artists out there. And I don't know why people would rather see
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I think your problem is that you admit you haven't seen many english-language fanartists. Just like everyone else who makes such rude generalizations. Sure, there are some that post in comms, but a lot of those artists are terrible. They're whoring their art around because they can't get hits otherwise.

There are AMAZING artists out there. And I don't know why people would rather see <a href="http://i10.tinypic.com/4yupvuu.jpg"crap like this</a> than <a href="http://fevereon.deviantart.com/art/Sephiroth-complete-15095133">stuff like this</a> (not that all american fanartists do hyperrealism... she was just the first to come to mind). Really, motion? Fuck that. I'd take awesome anatomy and shading and knowledge of the human figure over "motion" any day.

Do you really think japanese people have some sort of super art gene? Wtf. It's just ignorance on the part of you japanese artist worshippers that perpetuates this inbalance.

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[identity profile] misteline.livejournal.com 2007-09-06 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
28. I agree with you somewhat there, but you have to admit a lot of stuff in fandom is crap. D: It obviously takes more effort to get something published than it does to post something up on the internet. But then again, I know a handful of really good fic writers, most of which are actually aspiring authors or authors already.

[identity profile] blackbubbletea.livejournal.com 2007-09-06 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
31. He's not completely friendless. Always got the albino and the midget. XD

(Anonymous) 2007-09-07 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's pretty close though, Dr. Venture had to pay the two of them to help him fix the shrink ray. XD

[identity profile] khyrra.livejournal.com 2007-09-06 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
10. Her character was always a little Mary-Sueish, but I still like her, and I'm looking forward to her being on SGA. I never really liked Elizabeth anyway. There. I said it.

TWENTY ONE!

[identity profile] sparklemagpie.livejournal.com 2007-09-06 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
NOOOOOOOOOES! NOT JIRAIYA! ;_;
(I really have no place to bitch, I stopped reading during the story arc where they killed Asuma and I haven't bothered to catch up again. I love the series so much, but I've just lost all interest in the last year or so. Probably has something to do with Avatar: The Last Airbender taking over my life. >_>)

on #1

[identity profile] kittengrl4226.livejournal.com 2007-09-06 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahahaha. Oh yes. I agree. He's seriously one of the best videogame characters ever.

Speaking of which, I'm going to go play RE4 now. :D

[identity profile] saave.livejournal.com 2007-09-06 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
17. YOU COULD SO BE MY TWIN. (WANNA BE MY TWIN?)
the: ([Helena Bonham Carter] Beauty)

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7. I couldn't agree more. Everytime I see I've gotten a reply from FF.net (which is, regrettably, every day), I gringe. I can't help reading the comments, but I hate wading through all the mindless crap. It's nice that someone likes my fic, but getting comments like "omg so ho tt!!!1" (and I'm not joking) are nothing to be jealous of. Maybe one in twenty-five actually means anything to me anymore, or shows any actual thought put into it. But LJ comments I adore.
28. I hate that too. Yet I always feel embarrassed when one of my RL friends reads my fanfiction. (I get embarrassed when they read original stuff too, but less so.) Basically, it sucks.

Number 4 oh man

[identity profile] pts.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I never, never even imagined I'd see a Bordertown secret in here.

There's a staple of my late teens. Awesome.

I think it'd make a great RP, BTW. Whoever you are -- nicely done.

Re: Number 4 oh man

(Anonymous) 2007-09-07 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
That's actually a wonderful idea.

Would anyone else be interested if we got to starting that up on GJ or something? *raises hand*

~#4

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[identity profile] mireia-antonina.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
24. Aw, you're sweet. ♥ I'm sure she'll be thrilled.

4. ...Is it bad that I want to read this book just to see how bad it is?

[identity profile] otoselkie.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
6. I'll, um... I'll be in my bunk.

[identity profile] faito-oh.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
;sdjfasdf Jayne love. *re-watches Serenity*

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All other secrets pale in comparison.

[identity profile] forchancookie.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
9. I think you're a little behind there. And despite the tragedy, the series continues to maintain its awesome. Shut up and keep watching.

21. I don't like these "I love [insert character] but I hope they die for [insert dumb reason]" secrets. =/ They are always lame.

Not the OP

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Shut up and keep watching.

you had me with you, right until then.

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[identity profile] hako-neko.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
10. People seem to think she's a Mary Sue just because she's the leading female character. They seem to overlook her actual flaws. :\ <3Amanda Tapping

21. Sadly I agree. All I could feel was glee when Asuma died, although it was obnoxious that Kishimoto was pushing his readers to feel compassion for a pointless and stupid character. Jiraiya will, however, have an impact if he dies... and sadly, it looks like he'll have to, if Naruto's ever going to grow up.

25. May I join you? I lack CP9 friends. T__T

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(Anonymous) 2007-09-07 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god... I know precisely how you feel.

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[identity profile] wickedgameff.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have any recs, but I have to agree with you: an abusive Soubi is not an IC Soubi. I like him best when he is submissive to Ritsuka but still ends up seme. Topping from the bottom FTW.

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[identity profile] mistressofrobin.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
01) Oh man. That's awesome. Now I have to play RE4 without the infinite money cheat and try that out. XD
17) I can agree with a lot of that. I'm exactly the way you described myself, to the point the thought of myself simply dating creeps me out. I'd be more than happy to smut and slut around with a male character I'm playing -- once I get past my newbishness and pop my smut RP cherry, but that's another story -- but even my crudest, beeyatchiest female RPG character hasn't lost her virginity yet, and I don't plan for her to anytime soon. And if I finally get around to RPing smut with one of my guys, it has to be another guy because any RP sex involving a girl squicks me since I'm a girl and it's like involuntarily seeing myself as the girl getting done. DX I wouldn't say I'm absolutely terrified of men, but when guys hold a conversation with me longer than three to five minutes I'm shaking and looking everywhere but their face and can't stop myself from thinking they'll try to ask me out on a date. It makes me feel so much better to know someone else worries about the same thing, heh.
18) Those girls are 13? Frick, they look older than me, and I'm almost 21! Even though people think I look about 16, those girls would still look older than me, wtfrick?

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[identity profile] doinkies.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
18. Hehe, I had the same reaction when I first saw a J-drama with Narumi Riko (http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Narumi_Riko) in it. Though she's only 15, and was 12 when they made the drama, I thought she was much older. I was quite surprised to find out she was so young! XD

17 OP

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[identity profile] ronsard.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
2. YES. Soubi = broken sub. I was under the impression rather a lot of people thought this. Why are these people not writing fic?

6. This... this is true ♥

21. Me, I hope it finally happens so I can stop pretending to give a shit about this manga. ILU, Jiraya.

36. The thing about art is that, I don't know, shouldn't it speak for itself? There's no accounting for taste, after all.

This (http://invisiblecities.comicgenesis.com/) is my favorite web artist. She lives in Malaysia, to the best of my knowledge. Unsubtle pimp.

Plus, you kind of sound like a bitter, rancid bitch, so it's hard to work up any empathy.

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(Anonymous) 2007-09-07 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. Unsubtle pimp though it might be, it's totally sexy art. I like the soft painterly quality.

Oh man. I swear I'm not rancid until someone leaves me sitting on the counter a few days, blech someone makes statements that imply my inferiority. If I've got one pet peeve, it's people assuming that because of X quality of mine (nationality, race, gender, etc) I'm thus inferior to someone with Y quality. Especially since most people who make those statements don't really know the difference half the time. I've seen loads of people talk about some picture as being by "some amazing japanese artist" when it's by an artist from an english-speaking country, and they're just mistaken, and perpetuating a stereotype that's hurtful to the english-speaking artists who really don't need people to believe that they are "catching up" to the japanese artists.

Yeah, something probably did crawl up my vagina and die. :< Sorry.

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[identity profile] demyx.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
17. YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

I am just like that, RIGHT DOWN to the male RP characters (the original ones, obviously I can't treat fandom men like that XD), and I have no idea why. I can't even physically stand the presence of men sometimes and I feel so horrible whenever I think about it. I even have male friends and I trust them, but I get nervous when I'm alone with them, EVEN when I know they would never intentionally hurt me or anything.

:| It's not even that I like girls more (I actually hate most girls and get nervous around strangers period), but... guys like give me panic attacks while most girls just give me that "stranger" vibe.

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[identity profile] telluryan.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
;__; I feel the same way.

[identity profile] elystia.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
2. I LOVE SOUBI. And while I'm usually really turned off by masochism as anyone, I don't blame him for it because his life has sucked so much. I don't know, he just doesn't meet the stereotype at all, even if he looks like he does.

You're not alone ♥

8. FUCKIN' SIGNED. Anime ripped off Walt Disney, all us pastey faces should rise up on rebellion >(

But really, it works both ways. Fandom just likes to pretend it doesn't.

9. This is pretty.

27. You'll be the run of the mill 4chan porn troll who beats off to little kids getting raped by 50 year old men, then? If not, maybe you should consider how fucking stupid generalizations are, especially on sites with over two million users. Yeah, there are a lot of annoying whiny tweens, but there are plenty of other people, too.

35. CoS kind of freaked me out, but I still loved it. ♥

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(Anonymous) 2007-09-07 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
best use of generalizations to beat a generalization ever.

[identity profile] loquaciousquark.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
17. *sigh* WORD. I hate feeling so insecure, but...there you have it. A guy I met pretty recently asked me what I was doing Friday night, and my response was to panic mindlessly and tell him I was going to a study group.

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[identity profile] 1849.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
lol.

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[identity profile] militarypenguin.livejournal.com 2007-09-07 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
me2.

Though I tend to feel that way about messageboards/forums in general, regardless of whether the members are annoying or not. Everyone being Anonymous plus the fact that the threads only last for a few hours makes me feel less overwhelmed. If that makes sense.

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