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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-16 06:42 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah? So?
'Rape' against men is so insignificant an issue. It's like what, one in a thousand (Not a real statistic, just making the point that it's not a widespread issue, dont get on to me about my faulty numbers). It's a statistical, anomaly and can therefore be ignored to some degree.

Women being abused by media, reduced to nothing but objects for the gratification of male viewers, IS a significant issue and needs to be called out and fought against where ever we find it.

I'm not saying both of these situations are not problems, both these things need to go away; But one of these is a real ever present problem for modern feminists, the other is, to be perfectly blunt, a small case of men getting a taste of their own horrible medicine.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
a small case of men getting a taste of their own horrible medicine.

You're a fucking horrible person. I hope you get raped and see how it feels.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
And for what it's worth, statistics are 1 out of 10 people who are raped are men, not one out of a thousand.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, Maybe that last line came out harsher than I wanted, but how can you dare get on a high horse with me when you're hoping I get raped? Fuck you, you worthless misogynistic fuck.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
You are disgusting. No matter how wrong they were, you are even worse for saying this. Show more humanity than they did. It backs up your beliefs more.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
hi rad!fem anon

So in summary "Male rape victims don't deserve help or acknowledgement until less naked women appear on tv!" With admitted fake numbers indicating that you have no idea whatsoever about the issue, solely to try to seem smart, no less. Bra-VO. I'm sure the many, many men who are raped in prison each year, and the actresses who willingly choose to undress for the camera would applaud.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, you're being an asshole on purpose, I know but I don't want people taking your hyperbole as a serious representation of my post:

An accurate summary would be "Male rape is not as pervasive or significant an issue from a feminist view point as the endless objectification of women in the media"

The numbers were not meant to be taken literally, I was just making the point that it's not a significant number. The actual numbers, as provided above, are 10%, so it sort of backs up my point.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
So what, are you saying that male rape victims deserve it? What is wrong with you.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
BECAUSE PATRIARCHY.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
No, I admit I phrased that last line poorly. I just mean it's not really as big of an issue. It's a problem with men for men, not for feminists.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This folks is why people use words like "misandry". Because if saying men deserve to get raped doesn't count as misandry, what does?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
+ infinity

I cannot take these people seriously if they call me a "horrible person" anymore.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
It's not 'misandry' its... triage. A problem that affects a small number of men vs a problem that affects every woman. How is this such a difficult concept to grasp?

I admit I phrased that last bit poorly, but I don't think men deserve to get raped, just that it's not as big of a problem, and certainly not from a feminist viewpoint.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of the abuse that is perpetrated against males occurs when they are children. They're not members of an oppressive patriarchal hegemony; they're fucking children. It doesn't alleviate women's suffering, it doesn't fix anything. These are children who have been raped, molested, violated, trafficked, abused and wronged. They didn't deserve it. And the adult men? They didn't deserve it either. No one deserves it. Don't think two wrongs can make a right.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, one quick thing before I make the bulk of my point: They're not members of an oppressive patriarchal hegemony yet.

I do have to apologise, I phrased that last bit poorly. I don't think they deserve it, just that it's not as big of an issue for women.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww, damn anon. I was with you right up untill that last bit, then ou had to go and be a moron.

Fuck you.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-05-16 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
The entire post is pretty awful if you ask me. "It's a statistical, anomaly and can therefore be ignored to some degree." What? This anon is also ignoring the fact that men can be raped by other men

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I know this, I'm sorry I didn't mean it to sound so bad.
Men don't deserve rape, I know this. I just mean that it's not our problem.

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ext_81845: mashmyre cello facepalming, from the anime zz gundam (facepalm)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-05-16 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
YOU'RE NOT HELPING

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"Feminists don't hate men! Misandry is a myth!"

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Both statements are true.

Some radical people who might identify (falsely) as feminists do hate men though. And misandry still isn't a thing.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I love how you put 'rape' in little quotation marks like it isn't actual rape. Fuck you.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Since the vast majority of rape against adult men is perpetrated by, you guessed it, other men, and the vast majority of female-on-male rape is perpetrated by adult women on male children and adolescents, male rape still falls under the all-encompassing problem of patriarchy - and strict social hierarchies in general - and how it harms all people who have had their power compromised and are punished for it instead of protected. Where do you think adult male bigots learned everything they thought they needed to know about empathy? From their own "horrible medicine", often when vulnerable (as children, in prison, in institutions, in war, while homeless, etc).

Oh, and it's a statistical anomaly for women to become pregnant from rape, too. I'd like to see you tell women who've suffered that anomaly that it can "be ignored to some degree".

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's not one out of a thousand. It's one out of six. http://1in6.org/

You need to educate yourself, and you need, right now, to stop thinking of yourself as a good person. Because you aren't.