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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-16 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2326 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you know what I saw on Tumblr?

The SJWs were less offended by Theon's sexual assault and castration and more bothered by the fact that the women who raped him were naked and thus objectified by male viewers.

I wish I was making this up.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I was cringing during that whole scene, because I was wondering if one of those naked girls is Kyra.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh for FFS, no-one's saying that the female characters in the scene have it worse than Theon. It's possible to feel horrible for Theon and despise Ramsay's female accomplices as characters and think that it's gross that the screenwriters/directors have yet again decided to put in naked actresses, presumably at least in part to titillate male viewers.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-05-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
lol right?

How is this difficult to understand?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the actor playing Theon is not really being tortured. The actresses, however, are really naked.

Now, whether or not it's exploitative is whole other debate. But take this into consideration: Natalia Tena (Osha) wanted to wear a merkin for her nude scenes because she felt it wouldn't make sense for her character to be clean-shaven. But the show-makers vetoed it.
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-05-16 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Incredibly OT, but whoa, Osha is Tonks? I did not realize that. @_@

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah? So?
'Rape' against men is so insignificant an issue. It's like what, one in a thousand (Not a real statistic, just making the point that it's not a widespread issue, dont get on to me about my faulty numbers). It's a statistical, anomaly and can therefore be ignored to some degree.

Women being abused by media, reduced to nothing but objects for the gratification of male viewers, IS a significant issue and needs to be called out and fought against where ever we find it.

I'm not saying both of these situations are not problems, both these things need to go away; But one of these is a real ever present problem for modern feminists, the other is, to be perfectly blunt, a small case of men getting a taste of their own horrible medicine.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
a small case of men getting a taste of their own horrible medicine.

You're a fucking horrible person. I hope you get raped and see how it feels.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
And for what it's worth, statistics are 1 out of 10 people who are raped are men, not one out of a thousand.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, Maybe that last line came out harsher than I wanted, but how can you dare get on a high horse with me when you're hoping I get raped? Fuck you, you worthless misogynistic fuck.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
You are disgusting. No matter how wrong they were, you are even worse for saying this. Show more humanity than they did. It backs up your beliefs more.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
hi rad!fem anon

So in summary "Male rape victims don't deserve help or acknowledgement until less naked women appear on tv!" With admitted fake numbers indicating that you have no idea whatsoever about the issue, solely to try to seem smart, no less. Bra-VO. I'm sure the many, many men who are raped in prison each year, and the actresses who willingly choose to undress for the camera would applaud.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, you're being an asshole on purpose, I know but I don't want people taking your hyperbole as a serious representation of my post:

An accurate summary would be "Male rape is not as pervasive or significant an issue from a feminist view point as the endless objectification of women in the media"

The numbers were not meant to be taken literally, I was just making the point that it's not a significant number. The actual numbers, as provided above, are 10%, so it sort of backs up my point.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
So what, are you saying that male rape victims deserve it? What is wrong with you.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This folks is why people use words like "misandry". Because if saying men deserve to get raped doesn't count as misandry, what does?

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of the abuse that is perpetrated against males occurs when they are children. They're not members of an oppressive patriarchal hegemony; they're fucking children. It doesn't alleviate women's suffering, it doesn't fix anything. These are children who have been raped, molested, violated, trafficked, abused and wronged. They didn't deserve it. And the adult men? They didn't deserve it either. No one deserves it. Don't think two wrongs can make a right.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww, damn anon. I was with you right up untill that last bit, then ou had to go and be a moron.

Fuck you.

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ext_81845: mashmyre cello facepalming, from the anime zz gundam (facepalm)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2013-05-16 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
YOU'RE NOT HELPING

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"Feminists don't hate men! Misandry is a myth!"

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I love how you put 'rape' in little quotation marks like it isn't actual rape. Fuck you.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Since the vast majority of rape against adult men is perpetrated by, you guessed it, other men, and the vast majority of female-on-male rape is perpetrated by adult women on male children and adolescents, male rape still falls under the all-encompassing problem of patriarchy - and strict social hierarchies in general - and how it harms all people who have had their power compromised and are punished for it instead of protected. Where do you think adult male bigots learned everything they thought they needed to know about empathy? From their own "horrible medicine", often when vulnerable (as children, in prison, in institutions, in war, while homeless, etc).

Oh, and it's a statistical anomaly for women to become pregnant from rape, too. I'd like to see you tell women who've suffered that anomaly that it can "be ignored to some degree".

(Anonymous) 2013-05-17 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's not one out of a thousand. It's one out of six. http://1in6.org/

You need to educate yourself, and you need, right now, to stop thinking of yourself as a good person. Because you aren't.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-16 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Orrrrrr maybe it is because the rape is terrible yes. And nobody but a bunch of lunatics are denying that. People are just also upset that the rape is yet again used as a way to titillate mainstream media with boobies. Cause GOT doesn't add enough sexualized boobies as is.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
The women raped him?