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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-08 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #2441 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK, I kinda like that people here seem to be anti-SJW.

protip: if you read that, ignored the W, and got offended about how anybody could be against social justice at all, you're probably one of them

(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
The W is in the eye of the beholder.

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My anguish in two sentences

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm very sure there are still vicious ship wars around if you look in the right places.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much why I'm not all that active in fandom anymore. It's not that SJ issues aren't relevant to me.

It's just that, you know, I have to deal with misogyny and heterosexism in my real life

and I don't fucking feel like hearing people do nothing but talk about how THIS CANON IS SEXIST OH NOES when I really just want to relax and have fun.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
To be honest I think we all just got older and realized that shipping arguments are pretty pointless.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I think part of the issue is that in those lighter-weight arguments you mentioned, someone can come along and point out that it really doesn't matter, it's just opinions, there's no reason they can't coexist, etc. If people tack a facade of social justice onto their cause, they can argue that it is RIGHT.

[personal profile] seventh_seal 2013-09-08 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Lots of people are getting into slacktavism nowadays. Makes them feel good about themselves.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Timing is everything - 02. was the first ship argument I've seen in weeks.
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[personal profile] souljelly 2013-09-08 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Aye, it's been a good while since I saw a nice, fun, aimless ship war.

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[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-09-08 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is the panel of a comic book showing Captain America throwing his shield at a man wearing a skin-tight suit. The shield is hitting the first man on the face with the onomatopoeia "wank". Another man wearing a strange suit says "Captain America! I command you too--"]

I miss the days when people wanked for hours about which guy the girl should choose or which guy tops in the slash ship or other stupid shit like that. Now all we have is social justice and bitching about other people and other fucking boring shit like that. Am I in the wrong circles? When did we all get so serious?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
well that's how the saying goes, ain't it?


you don't know what you had until you lose it


just you wait, op, something worse will come along and we'll all miss the carefree days of tumblr sjw wank
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[personal profile] aubry 2013-09-08 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Do we have fewer ship wars on F!S nowadays cause people stopped posting I Ship It secrets, or are shipwars way less of a thing in general now?

I feel like maybe people are more multifannish now and there are fewer people who do fandom just for their one OTP. But that might just be where I hang out?

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
SJW are boring and annoying to me as well as the ships wars you miss so much.
starphotographs: I like him. He kind of looks and acts like one of my characters. (I did not know this when I started liking him!) (Victor (...>:|))

[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-09-08 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This is what I've been saying for like, years. I feel like SJ nitpicking has replaced the kind of nitpicking that is actually canon-relevant and interesting. Remember when you used to see detailed essays analyzing a character's personality, and all kinds of crazy fan-theories about everything you can think of? And people would have these long conversation threads just mulling over different aspects of the story/characters/etc.? I feel like you don't see that anymore because yelling at people about word usage and warnings and getting outraged about trivial shit has become the Thing to Do. And it's just... I dunno, way too meta for my tastes or something.

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Honest answer

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There's an idea that started in feminist circles that has since spread: "the personal is political." You can find a good explanation here: http://www.feminist.com/askamy/feminism/fem153.html

The problem here is that the "SJWs" tend not to have much in the way of, well, lives. By that I mean they appear to be, in general, young (hovering around college age or younger) and deeply sunk into internet fandom communities. This is their world. So they care a great deal about, say, whatever show they're obsessively following and will act as if that has the same weight as day to day life because that IS their day to day life.

For example, someone drawing a character as the wrong color is literally the worst racism they have ever personally experienced, so they'll treat it as such.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2013-09-08 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I think it's a case of non-fans jumping on the band wagon of the latest craze just to feel morally superior. I have come across one too many threads where the person standing on their soap box spouting SJW jargon had only the faintest idea of the fandom they were trying to be a part of. And most of the information was gleamed off of sites like Wikipedia.

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-09-08 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww cheer up. I'm 96% certain it's a cyclical thing -- in a few years, after some of the now-popular styles of sjwism get exhausted and a couple new fandom juggernauts come along, we'll undoubtedly have some more prominent bouts of childish wank. For the time being...you just need to dig a bit deeper. It's still there :)

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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-09-08 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to get into the SJW/Anti wank. Not my field.

I will say, however, that you can find pointless wank. It's there. It is so very much there. So stretch your legs and take a walk through fandom areas you haven't been before. You'll find it eventually.

WHY HAS NO ONE MENTIONED THE AWESOMENESS OF THAT BACKGROUND PIC????

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this.

If you ever need a laugh at a wanky fandom, Supernatural will literally never let you down ever. I've been entertained by years just reading the stuff on F_W.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously agree. I wish wank was back to "normal people don't have sex like that!!!!" after fifty fics about fucking in a shower rather than tedious screeds about how everyone is racist because they ship white dudes.


(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
well we haven't been able to post "i ship it" secrets for a while. It's totally bringing me down.
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...you're hanging out in the wrong places, OP

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-09-09 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I actively AVOID all shipping wars and I still stumble across it every now and then. >.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-10 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'd rather have neither. I've grown weary of most wank to be honest, especially shipping wars. The fact that something that's supposed to be about love leads to so much hostility depresses the fuck out of me.