[ SECRET POST #2466 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2466 ⌋

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Notes:

Late day at work, sorry.

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Comments

Re: How many writers do we have here anyway?

[forgottenjester]

I'm a writer. I've technically had two things published. I've gotten an award for writing too.

Why?

[(Anonymous)]

Where do you see anyone here suggesting that only novel writing counts as real writing or that poets, dramatists, nonfiction writers and journalists aren't real writers? Because I sure don't see it. But whatever it is they're producing, real writers write--whether they feel inspired or not. If you ragequit writing FOREVER, on the other hand, you're not a writer anymore, you're a flouncer.

Re: sexuality without labels

[lex_antonia]

Polygamous aliens.

[(Anonymous)]

Still no. Do you think there's no published writers out there who have ever gone through a period where they got so discouraged they gave up on writing? And does doing so somehow invalidate any writing they've done before? All this 'you're not a writer' stuff is seriously such a shit thing to tell someone, especially while they're feeling discouraged. How tremendously unhelpful. Writers are not some special club of magical creatures who never hit roadblocks, and to jump on someone for feeling like giving up when that happens, whether you think their reasons are petty or not, and tell them that they're not really a writer is ridiculous. That accomplishes nothing except discouraging them further.

Re: Please!

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting. Sometimes a phrase or description can be similar to a passage in another work and not mean anything in itself, but a lot of her stuff is blatant and involves entire themes. I wonder if she is capable of original work. Not that I care to find out.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, if you want to make a living as a writer, or have anyone else actually read your "beautiful words", you need to grow a thicker skin.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, and I've had other online friends visit, and they were just fine.

Re: I have no opinion on this writer, BUT

[(Anonymous)]

On the other hand, most of the classics were hugely popular in their day, so anyone who thinks that popular writing is always shit, and that Great Writers are always without recognition in their own time, is an idiot and probably a shitty writer.

[forgottenjester]

So not a bust then.

[(Anonymous)]

OP can do with some discouraging, if you ask me.

[forgottenjester]

Keep making baseless accusations. It only makes you look worse.

Obviously you've spent too much time in Desert Bluffs. You've been brainwashed by their idiotic ways. Next you'll say we should be naming our town Desert Bluffs 2.

Besides, Desert Bluffs needs to get it together. They have cooties.

[dinogrrl]

I don't disagree. Communication goes two (or more) ways. My point was that if someone's introverted or has anxiety issues, it is very easy for their actions and words to be misinterpreted or even outright overlooked by non-introverts. If you're used to people gushing for hours about how awesome something is, thanks a ton, let's do it again, etc., it's very easy to miss out on a simple "Thanks, this was fun." Neither version is wrong, but it can be confusing, or even rage-inducing, if you're expecting one and get the other.

[(Anonymous)]

Well....it's not really meant to be a serious historical document. I did come out of it shipping Holmes/Freud a little, though.

Re: TAKE IT YOU IDIOT

[kaijinscendre]

Insanenoodlyguy, the master of subtlety.

Re: +1

[forgottenjester]

Pretty much, yeah.

[caffeine_buzz]

As someone who's also shy and has social anxiety issues, I can see how your friend might have just been shy, but on the other hand I would hope they could at least manage a 'thank you' and a smile. I have social interaction problems but I know it and I know how I can come off, so in your friend's situation I would be trying my best to let the other person know that it's not them, it's me and I really was having a good time. Posting like there was nothing wrong and it was a great visit afterward seems weird too (especially inviting you to come visit her -- maybe it's just me because I think I'd have problems with it, but that doesn't seem like something a person who's so shy they can't even say 'Thank you' would do).

[(Anonymous)]

I've always kind of theorized that after the Hiatus, Watson was so much more afraid of losing Holmes that he became a lot more forceful in his warnings. Like, maybe he threatened to walk out and never see Holmes again if he didn't let Watson help him quit.

Somehow, I can't really see Holmes deciding that he might not be perfectly in control of his health as long as he took it irregularly enough to not get seriously addicted. And he'd totally be the type who would always be careful enough to not overdose.

(I would LOVE recs for good withdrawal-fics, btw. Anyone?)

[(Anonymous)]

because writing is all about getting published. oh you people, give me a break.

If you insult cassandra clare's for getting her (shitty) books published but then see as an ultimate objective of writing getting published, you should be worshipping and taking notes from clare because she's used a perfect formula to get published. (she basically picked up the trends from the last 10/20 years, joined some tropes, some pop culture references, then glue it all up with pretentious writing, and BANG! best seller)

Getting published is about what sells, what people want to read, what entertains people. It isn't about good writing and it hasn't been for a long time now. And it makes sense because the industry of books is now an entertainment industry and entertainment industry adapts to the consumer's tastes.

If you want to really write (apart from the entertainment aspect - which is not a bad reason to write though, if you want to entertain people, great for you! but if that's what you want, why hating on CC? She may be a shitty person, but her books are entertaining to a great amount of people ... isn't that what you aspire?), you won't give two fucks if it gets published or not because it doesn't matter if you get money out of it.

There are other ways to make your work be seen, appreciated, and to disseminate your ideas (because that's basically what "writing" was and, in a more strict interpretation, is about) without getting it published and making money out of it. And even if it isn't appreciated: well a) probably you aren't as good as you think - IMPROVE b) probably you are good (there's always room for improvement though) but maybe your work will only be recognised in 100 years, who knows c) but ultimately, who the hell cares? are you writing to get a golden star in your forehead, is that why you write? If it is, than you're probably writing for others, and again, if that's your purpose, write something you know other people will like (like Clare).

Stop whining. If you're not writing for yourself in a first instance, it's your damn fault you gave up writing or stopped improving. Don't try to justify your lack of drive by shoving the fault onto others. If all the great artists and writers in the past had been only the ones who'd had recognition on their lifetimes, literature would be shitty.

If you're giving up writing, guess what, writing is not going to miss you either and this is the bold truth.

[littlestbirds]

That's what I thought.
You know I'm revising my original opinion (that the hate bandwagon is satisfying and makes them feel like fandom wank is some epic RL drama they have Special Knowledge about) to wonder if people hate on her because she represents things about fandom that they're ashamed of being seen by a wider audience...

[(Anonymous)]

OP?

Re: How many writers do we have here anyway?

[(Anonymous)]

I write, but I've never been published [in fairness, I've also never bothered to even try to get published.]

[forgottenjester]

A lot of the fanart coming out of Tumblr is super beautiful.

Oh my goodness, yes. So much pretty art I can hardly keep up.

[(Anonymous)]

Going off the actual content of the secret, this is not someone who is going through a dry spell feeling discouraged. This is someone who's ragequitting writing and saying they don't want to write anymore because someone they deems Unworthy is popular. How, exactly, are you still a writer if you've decided you're not going to write anymore, because you're not going to cast your pearls before swine? We have no way of knowing whether OP has ever even done any actual writing. TBH, my money is on "No."

Re: How are you currently spoiling yourself? (Nonfandom, food, drink.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm...not, really? I'm mostly saving up to spoil myself early next year [by building myself a pretty pricey gaming computer.]

[(Anonymous)]

It's odd how the hatedom for her seems to have ballooned in the past year or so, to the point that there are secrets just based in hate of her and nothing to do with her actual stories (most of the time). Like the fiction isn't even the focus of most of these secrets, it's the person herself. I almost never hear anyone sing her praises. A hatedom of something that doesn't actually have a fandom...

My theory is that, since the Twilight fandom is pretty much out of the mainstream with the movies and books all being over, the anti-SMeyer fans joined in with the anti-CCs that already existed. They created a new, superpowered hatedom, with little more than an apparently flopped movie to spark its birth. Who knows what fandom they'll flock to hate next... (insert evil laugh)