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(Anonymous) 2013-12-06 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I know this is probably a troll, but may I ask what the fuck is wrong with being or liking "girly"

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I see where you're coming from but...

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-07 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a girl and I buy to myself WWE action figures... yet if I find Monster High's figures quite nice and I would buy one to myself given the chance (I don't have a fav one that I want to buy). So there's nothing wrong liking girly stuff, anon.

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Nothing wrong with discovering new sides of yourself, OP.

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No, they aren't awesome. They all look like anorexic bimbos. And they are pretty ugly too.

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WARNING FOR BROODMOTHERS

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-07 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's stories like this that led me to start my campaign to call all action figures and models "dolls".

Also, the similar campaign to call all comics, graphic novels, and serial art "funnybooks".

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Secret 1 - Monster High

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-12-07 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
[Picture is the logotype of the brand of toy dolls "Monster High". It's a cartoonish skull with "eyelashes" and a pink bow (pink in this picture) on top of its head.]

My whole life I have hated dolls and only played with action figures and other non-girly things.

I hate myself for liking these dolls. Whenever I buy them I have to refer to them as action figures to reaffirm my masculinity. I'm female, but I've never been girly and I wish I hated these dolls but they're really awesome looking and I can't help but love them.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-12-07 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Well good for you for at least acknowledging that you like something out of your comfort zone, OP. I see you already have the disparaging comment about appearance in this thread, good to know F!S is still on the ball with that. Nothing new or insightful, but still.

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holy internalized misogyny :(

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[personal profile] nan 2013-12-07 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Dude. Super masculine people can like dolls while dainty, feminine people can like...idk. UFC or MMA or some shit. People can have a wide variety of interests. Don't put yourself in a box.

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Liking dolls doesn't necessarily make you less masculine. I honestly see action figures and dolls as the same thing, and growing up my brothers and sister and I all had a mix of both and played with them all. No big thang.

Though I do think it's a problem that you are so upset about this.

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[personal profile] electromouse 2013-12-07 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, you like what you like. I personally don't find them very appealing, but if you like 'em, there's nothing wrong with that.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-07 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
OP, it's seriously fine to be masculine as fuck and like something that's "girly". It doesn't subvert your masculinity.

Also, I love Monster High dolls, I just got Elissabat today, she's adorable.
starphotographs: ...I'm not that bad, though. And I don't even light things on fire! Well, not regularly... (Izaya (devious))

[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-12-07 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
This just reminds me of stereotypical nerd characters in cartoons.

"They're not dolls, they're ACTION. FIGURES."

Taped glasses and propeller hat optional. :P
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2013-12-07 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Those dolls are awesome, it's no wonder they caught your eye.

But it sounds like you have a lot of gender more issues to work your way through. You'll probably be a lot happier once you realize that what's "girly" and what's not is totally arbritary. A lot of things that are "girly" in one country are masculine in another.

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[personal profile] sarillia 2013-12-07 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I know people are allowed to have their preferences and I respect that, but it does get annoying to hear over and over again how icky "girly" things are.
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-12-07 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Liking or disliking dolls is not a biological masculine or feminine trait. It is a gendered trait because society dictates it as such.

You only feel the need to "reaffirm your masculinity," because society tells you people with masculine traits should not like dolls as dolls are for "weak and girly" people.

I think you need to start releasing the self gendered roles/boxes you have created and remember that you can like whatever the fuck you want. You can still be masculine and like dolls, no matter what societies ideologies say.
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(Anonymous) 2013-12-07 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
please, do go on about how you're Not Like Other Girls

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[personal profile] republicanism 2013-12-07 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
i guess that depends how you see masculinity. hiding your own interests in favor of what some vague mass of people say you should and shouldn't like doesn't seem very masculine to me, anyway.

of course, it doesn't seem very feminine, either.

huh. it's almost as though this behavior wasn't indicative of your gender at all.
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2013-12-07 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Right there with you, OP. I had a Barbie when I was a kid... because it came with a horse, and I wanted the horse. The doll just sort of sat around being unused. (I didn't have My Little Pony stuff either, despite liking horses, because they were "dolled up" too much to look like the real thing.)

I've so far managed to refrain from getting any of the MH dolls except Torelai for my girlfriend, because she's a cat person and mentioned that the MH dolls were kinda cool, and so as a laugh I thought I'd get her the catgirl that was just being released at the time. But when doing my research into whether or not they had any sort of cat-monster dolls, I came across the twins. Who look really cool. And then since I'd had to go on Amazon to get Torelai, more MH stuff started popping up in my product recommendations, and I spotted Robecca (steampunk robot girl?!) and Venus (PLANT GIRL YES YES YES) and... I have never done the doll thing in my life and am rather baffled by this line making me want to do so now.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-12-07 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Femininity isn't bad, you know. It's not weak or stupid. Also, here's something that will blow your fucking mind. Being more feminine does not make you less masculine. They're not really opposites when you think about it for too long. Mostly because we can hardly define the two concepts anyway.

Anyway, this secret kind of pissed me off and I don't even like those dolls. Sorry. :/

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-07 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I get not being into Girly Things, and then being bewildered by Exceptions, but hating yourself for it makes it sound like you have some kind of complex. Let's just... relax.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-07 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
...Action figures basically are dolls, though.

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I don't know if anybody reads the later comments....

(Anonymous) 2013-12-07 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I just wanted to link to this post because it really resonated with me on a personal level about dealing with the whole "feminine = bad" thing.

It took me a hell of a long time to realize that being female is awesome. :) It really sucks the way we're all supposed to know that when we're constantly beaten down as impressionable children with the assumption that being girls or girly is stupid.

http://amandahocking.blogspot.com/2013/05/my-reaction-to-gender-coverup.html

Anyway, if you've bothered to read this comment, please do check it out. Very meaningful post , IMO. :-)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-07 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, it's not a balance and no one is keeping score. Liking one feminine thing isn't going to subtract points from your masculinity cred-- if you think it is, then yeah, that's internalized misogyny.

Having internalized that dichotomy isn't your fault, though, but it's something that you can work towards getting rid of. Honestly, I sincerely wish you luck-- when you realize that you can like whatever you want without having to feel bad about it, you'll be much happier.

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