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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-05 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2560 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2560 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You and everyone else who genuinely loves the fantasy genre.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Did he set out to change the genre? Redefine it? Seems like he just wrote a series of books the way he wanted to, and then they somehow blew up and became overwhelmingly popular. These cries of "Oh my precious fantasy genre!" are kind of pathetic.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really when you consider how his fans are a bunch of smug rabid harpies that swoop down from the sky to screech at anyone who doesn't like ASoIaF because "ZOMG HDU YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SFF FAN IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT! ASOIAF IS BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE ITS GRIM-N-GRITTY AND YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO TRULY APPRECIATE IT!!1!1!"

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
But does that actually do anything to the fantasy genre as a whole? I mean, are other authors actually intimidated into writing GRRM-N-GRITTY (hur hur) as well? Are other readers persuaded into drinking that Kool-Aid and no longer support other series?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't that the way you're acting?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Mte.

Rabid fans and rabid haters are two sides of the same annoying coin.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a fan. I know plenty of other fans. I follow a bunch of fans on tumblr. I have literally never encountered this attitude; I've found WAY more people who sound like you and/or spit nails and fiery brimstone at fans for daring to like such an ANTI-WOMAN CRAPFEST OF A SERIES !!!!!1111!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
You haven't met the hardcore fans on Westeros.org...

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[personal profile] caerbannog 2014-01-05 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK, I've found people on FS and tumblr to be quite understanding that I gave it try (book and tv show, both out of curiosity) and did not like it at all. I've yet to be screeched at for it.

Maybe it's the way you present yourself?

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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2014-01-05 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Curiously I'm not a ASoIaF fan and I don't get this.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
This! I don't even care for the books, but this attitude is annoying.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I find Martin way more annoying for his obnoxious and hypocritical attitude about fanfiction than anything having to do with the sanctity of the fantasy genre. And I don't even read ASOIAF fanfic.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I find him gross because of this.

http://grrm.livejournal.com/155522.html

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That's what coffee's for

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

There is no one proper way to write fantasy.

-someone who has been into fantasy for decades.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want to say he ruined the fantasy genre or whatever nonsense, but as a fantasy fan, I hate how his become the poster boy for fantasy (when I believe his books suck). And how it's assumed I like his books because I like fantasy.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a perfectly reasonable position.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-01-06 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
This.
I'm a bit worried we'll see a generation of copycats, too.
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[personal profile] lady_songsmith 2014-01-06 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
This. Particularly since his characterization is shit. Gritty I can deal with, boring I can't.

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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2014-01-08 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
They're already out there. Sadly.

It sucks, because I actually do like ASoIaF and dark fantasy fiction, but... at this point, it's like there's a competition going on as to who can write the Darkest and Grittiest and Kill The Most Characters EVAR. It's a little ridiculous.
Edited (because I need to remove my tab key so I can stop accidentally tab space posting...) 2014-01-08 07:23 (UTC)

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I genuinely love the fantasy genre and have been reading fantasy novels for 20 years. I like GoT just fine. I don't think "OMG SO INNOVATIVE MANY EXCITINGS MUCH WOW" about it but I do enjoy it, along with a boatload of others series. Stop with the "NO TRUE FANTASY FAN" thing because it's a load of bullshit. Just because something you don't like happens to be popular doesn't mean that no one who does like it must not be a REAL fantasy fan.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-05 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
God, this.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2014-01-06 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
I love the fantasy genre and I also love Game of Thrones. It's like Lord of the Rings, but, you know, readable.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-06 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, I found the opposite to be true. But then, I'm a sucker for prose/language.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-06 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I found that they are not alike AT ALL, but while GRRM is a preschooler compared to Tolkien where writing style is concerned, GRRMs characters behave like real people. It's like comparing Metropolis with Matrix.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-06 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
You're the scifi anon poster from last week, aren't you?