[ SECRET POST #2606 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2606 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i.imgur.com/ZEGHH3J.png

[(Anonymous)]

I hate that movie so, so much. Except for Gong Li, who was like an elemental force.

[comma_chameleon]

I could understand the random subtitled Japanese that was inserted into it. I watched it with my mom and all I could think was, "Wait... isn't it implied they're ALREADY speaking Japanese?"

[(Anonymous)]

Gong Li's performance was pretty great, but I thought that the other principle actors also did well with their roles. They weren't given much, gods know.

[(Anonymous)]

That is the most perfect phrase that could ever be used to describe Gong Li, holy shit.

[iceyred]

I love that people complain about not having enough minorities in fiction. Then somebody writes a work with minorities as main characters, and people get upset if the writer is white/western. That's hysterical.

[(Anonymous)]

I totally get why people are upset, but the problem is that they're upset at an institutional/societal problem, yet keep trying to pin the blame on individual people.

[comradesmiler]

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so frustrating.

[(Anonymous)]

Not only minorities but women. Strong women who in charge of businesses.

[(Anonymous)]

Just seemed like the same old tired stereotypes to me. That conversation between Sayuri and Mameha. *cringe* "She's like a tiger." Yeah, we get it. Dragonlady! And Sayuri is the fragile, wilting Asian girl who needs to be protected. Blech.

[sarillia]

The problem isn't that he's white.

Now I'm having flashbacks to when I kept telling people that the problem with Macklemore isn't that he's straight. Everyone's always rushing to laugh at how ridiculous Tumblr is (I'll just borrow fs's shorthand where Tumblr=silly people) without actually listening to the arguments first.

[cloud_riven]

Did you read that book, or watch the movie. It's cheesy, shmoopy as fuck, and definitely entertaining in a melt-your-face-off kind of way like Titanic, but fuck no if I'm going laud that guy for being "progressive" when he's straight up writing personal fantasy.

[(Anonymous)]

Well it kind of sucks to be a minority author who works hard to share stories from within your community and someone else (from the oppressive group!) comes in and writes a story from the point of view of someone looking at your community from the outside and becomes internationally known and credited with shedding light on this fascinating culture. People can write about whatever they want and I absolutely think there should be more minorities but if you're not a member of the group you should expect criticism.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that when it comes to this film, it's not so much that he's white/western as that he didn't do it well at all. It's a very shallow, romanticized take on a real phenomenon. If he had tackled it with some depth, then I don't think people would have as much of a problem with it.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, you.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not that he's a white man that people are upset about it. He interviewed an actual geisha, Mineko Iwasaki, and swore to protray her story accurately, and then he wrote horribly stereotyped, fetishized racist mess. He then gave her as a source in the published copy, despite promising to leave her an anonymous source, and SHE got backlash in the Japanese geisha community, because they thought she was telling him the geisha were all prostitutes, instead of respected entertainers of a non-sexual nature.

He got rich and famous off his racist soft pornography, and she has her name in infamy in Japan because of his going back on his word.

[kaijinscendre]

I love this movie and want to GIF is so badly, but I don't want to deal with Tumblr being Tumblr if I do.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a beautiful movie, so I get enjoying the aesthetic. I just find the main characters too annoying to enjoy even the look of the movie.

[(Anonymous)]

I picked up the autobiography totally by accident before I ever heard of the novel, so yeah, left a bad taste in my mouth when I got around to watching the movie. Gong Li made up for some of it, though.

[(Anonymous)]

A) I can't believe that movie came out in 2005! It doesn't feel like it was that long ago.

B) I was soooo disappointed with it. I went in really wanting to like it, because I enjoy Japanese culture and I like Zhang Ziyi, Michelle Yeoh, and Ken Watanabe. But it was so...shallow and empty.

C) I hope my opinion on it doesn't make you feel weird. I'm glad you get enjoyment out of it.

[(Anonymous)]

I never saw the movie, but man, I could *not* finish that book no matter how hard I tried

I barely remember what happened in it except some dude bought the girl's virginity and cut up the towel she was on when they had sex so he could keep a souvenir/memento like thing of being her first?

[(Anonymous)]

That movie is so pretty. Yet so shallow and Hollywoodized.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't watch this movie, but I read the girl's actual memoirs before I read this book, and man, was it sexualized. Turning the geisha from an entertainer to a whore was pretty shitty.

[rbhudson]

Kinda OT but I thought they only painted their bottom lip

[(Anonymous)]

I just hated that this movie won an Oscar for Costume Design even though they fucked up so, so much with the costumes because they couldn't be assed to do some proper research.