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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-25 07:08 pm

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sarillia: (Default)

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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-07-26 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Why is the GOP the best party? I don't have even one good thought about them but I'm wondering if you have anything to say about them that I'd agree with.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know, I could never like a party that has such a negative view on female contraceptives. :/
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: unpopular opinions thread

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-07-26 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Republicans want you to become rich because that will help the economy.

Democrats want you to be poor so you'll be dependent on welfare and will continue to vote for them.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
But...rich people don't help the economy, the middle class spending does. Rich people horde money or put it into investments/things overseas. Trickle down economics do not work. I don't think Democrats are perfect by any stretch, but I'd say it's Republicans that want people to stay poor. Doesn't help that with the skyrocketing of living costs, they want wages to stay stagnate.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-07-26 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
The Republicans want you to get rich, then vote for them.

Rich people create jobs for the middle class.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-07-26 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Jobs that people can't support themselves with because it doesn't provide a living wage.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Rich people create jobs for the middle class.

They really, really don't. Not if they have any choice in the matter, anyway.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I know you're trolling but I thought I'd expand on this anyway:

I think we can see, quite clearly at this point, that the interests of the rich are in no way aligned with anything that creates jobs for the middle class (or good jobs for the working class, for that matter). The preferred strategies of the rich are, first, to automate as much as possible, so that functions can be performed with as few actual workers as possible, and second, for what jobs you do need to create, to pay as little as possible and to hold down the condition of the working and middle classes so that they're forced to accept long hours, no benefits, and low pay. Because, obviously, both of those things allow them to cut costs to the bone. Certainly some jobs are created by the rich, but it's the opposite of the aim of their economic choices and the political policies they support.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
If that were true, the middle class wouldn't be dying like it is now. The economy wouldn't have exploded right as Bush was leaving office, either. I remember a woman anchor on fox laughing about how she'd lose 'so much weight' if she were poor, completely out of touch with the reality of food costs, and that unhealthy food is the cheapest, and that healthy food is the most expensive. The gap between the rich and the poor is increasing at an alarming rate, and I'm not foolish enough to think Republics give two shits about anyone who isn't white, wealthy, straight, and Christian.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Also, Republics delude people into thinking they can become rich, when it is almost impossible. Unless you're born into money or are one of the few people to invent something like Facebook or tumblr, you just have little to no chance of gaining wealth. Not with the abysmal wages the so cold 'rich job creators' are willing to provide.

Oh, Walmart, some of the most richest companies in America, is quickly losing profits because foodstamps were cut. If that's not irony, I don't know what is.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: unpopular opinions thread

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-07-26 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
That is some hardcore self-defeating bull right there. I know a couple of rich people. Not one of them was born rich. They worked for it.

Democrats delude people into thinking they have no power over their lives and there is nothing they can do to change their situations and the only they have is to sit around and wait for the welfare check.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
You always seem so sincere, but whenever you make political posts I can help but wonder if you're trolling. I've never met another purported adult, liberal or conservative or otherwise, that views the political divide with such childlike simplicity.

Is the long game? Are you recycling brainless #conservativeandproud memes from the internet to see if anyone will bite, then cackling at the reaction?
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-07-26 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Well, damn. One of y'all figured it out. Took you long enough.

Honestly, I've admitted to trolling a couple of times and people still fall for it. It's hysterical. Especially once I've had a few.

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Re: unpopular opinions thread

[personal profile] sarillia 2014-07-26 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even know if you're serious or not. I know people who would say this ironically and I know people who would say it earnestly.

I really hate when economics is considered more important than human rights. I disagree with Republican economic ideas too and don't think they're getting us anywhere, but right now I'm thinking of the whole "I don't support them socially but I'm fiscally conservative" and I hate that. Way to throw me and my friends under the bus on the off chance that you might become rich and be benefited by Republican economic policies someday.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: unpopular opinions thread

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-07-26 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
You should turn it around and become rich then throw me under the bus.

Or...or...we could both become rich. Which is what Republicans want.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-07-26 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
There's only so much money. It's a zero-sum game.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-07-26 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Please don't tell me you've been reading David Eddings.

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lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-07-26 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
oh, goodness...

Republicans don't want you to become rich. They want themselves to become rich.

I am not saying Democrats have a better or more honest approach, mind - all politicians are corrupt to some degree - but you seem to have a very...roseate...view of repubs.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
This would almost be funny if it weren't so delusional and yet totally on point with how a lot of people think. And you could replace "Republican" with "Libertarian" and it'd work just as well.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Go the fuck away you horrible piece of shit.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, stick around. You're funny, and I don't mean that in a "I laugh at you" kind of way.
raspberryrain: GIF (blink)

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[personal profile] raspberryrain 2014-07-27 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
"The GOP is the best political party."

And you put your name on that? Oh, bb....

I just read your explanation, and I'm trying to figure out how to respond. I've heard of people believing that, but it's interesting to meet someone who actually thinks that.

OK, it's possible that GOP politicians (and DLC politicians like Bill Clinton, who have been kind of the same deal economically) think that they are encouraging wealth creation. The problem is that real median wealth doesn't go up very much when you have those in power trying to push wages down. And if real median wealth isn't actually growing, the wealth of the cronies and insiders at the top means almost nothing to the masses.

On the other hand, the USA had enormous economic growth in the post-WWII period, and that was with New Deal, social liberal policies that incentivized spending by the rich, encouraged labor organization, and led to relatively high wages for the working class. There were resource reasons the level of growth couldn't be sustained (most especially, domestic petroleum consumption outgrew what Texas could extract with well technology c. 1970), but the USA had better economic growth with policies more to the left than is mainstream now. High marginal tax rates encouraged the wealthiest capitalists to spend more and save less, which increased consumer demand; things like that.

At the extremes, (present) GOP rhetoric added to (present) GOP policies pretty much sounds like that woman in Australia with all the mineral rights who wanted to pay her employees less so they would supposedly work harder and get richer. Unless she's expecting them to steal their way to wealth, it doesn't make sense.

tl;dr: People can't grow rich if they don't have the employers or customers spending money to make them rich. Keeping wages low (very GOP these days) is part of this: a way to keep the rich from spending money on the middle.

Please read a little Twentieth Century economic history, and learn something about economic demand. I like Joseph Stiglitz, some of Paul Krugman's stuff is very accessible to laymen, Robert Reich is doing a lot of populist economic outreach now, Milton Friedman was a mostly sane right-winger in his day--I feel like I should name a Gentile in here somewhere--Brad DeLong is very well-regarded but very technical.

What you're saying, it's not economics.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-07-26 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. How much fun can you have at a party that is both "grand" and "old?" Makes it sound like a sock hop at a retirement home.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: unpopular opinions thread

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-07-26 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I like to troll them by espousing my belief that Fox has ruined the party. I can never decide if I'm happy or sad when some of them agree with me.