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Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

I was wondering with all the stuff going on in America how much faith the people of fs have in the police.


As a kid our house was broken into a lot and the police tended to be really useless and not even know what a gamecube was (after it was stolen). So I tend not to have much fate in them intelligence wise but I'm not very scared of them.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

I trust them not to be malicious, but I would expect them to be somewhat incompetent, to half-ass a lot of stuff, and perhaps to be randomly kind of jerkish.

I grew up with a lot of kids whose parents were police; I'm not sure how that influenced things at all.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

I do.

The police were the only thing that helped my family have any semblance of peace of mind after 9/11.

Which is why it always pains me when people say "cops are racist!" because the cops were the one thing standing between us and our neighbors.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

No. The jails are full of innocent people who trusted the police. If they want you to be a witness, then you had no clear view or hearing of whatever happened, if they are accusing you of something, then say nothing without a lawyer and even then give a reply of "no comment" if you need to give a reply at all. Remember, the police are in the business of making it look to the tabloids like something is being done. Whether that thing is the right thing, they care not.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

Where are you at, anon?

In the UK they're pretty ineffectual for most things. I live quite near Tower Hamlets, where the police are immobilised by a fear of being accused of being racists. Local Asian (Muslim) gangs are causing a lot of trouble, beating a lot of people up because they know they won't be persecuted.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[kallanda_lee]

Not terribly, no. They're not malicious per se, though they seem to always be there if they can give you a speeding ticket, but hardly bother if your house gets broken into.

I do not really feel they specifically have my interests at heart.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

I tend to trust our police but then I grew up in a fairly good neighborhood. We lived across from a park, and the police encouraged everyone in our community to call for pretty much anything. We have called a time or two, and the police come really quick.

Also, there's often a police car in the park at night since it's a place kids sometimes hang out. It's kept our park very safe, and I've watched the police from out window when they approach the kids. Usually the kids scatter when they see the police but if they do end up engaging, they only ever seem to talk and nothing seems hostile.

I've never heard of police brutality from our police but my community if fairly homogeneous and doesn't have a high crime rate. The police have a lot of community outreach and always seem friendly when I've had to deal with them (usually through school and events like National Night Out). I'd say I'm definitely not in the demographic to be harassed by police though.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

The police here are campaigning to have non-inflatable tires banned on autos because they are scared it will make their spike strips useless. They are also campaigning to make it illegal to wear a hat or sunglasses whilst driving, because it obscures the face for the camera. They are also campaigning to abolish the right against self-incrimination for certain crimes, so I don't trust them one inch.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

I trust them to catch criminals, generally speaking, and I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt in gray areas. The problem is, so much conflicting information abounds that I don't know which cases are gray and which aren't, with few exceptions. I still try to trust them though.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[tasogare_n_hime]

I'm admittedly frightened of the police. I've never had many encounters with them, but most of the cops I have encountered have not exactly been pleasant. The worst was the deputy sheriff who moved down the road from our family. he wanted to hunt on our property, and instead of just coming over and asking us like a normal person he harassed my family for around three years. We finally had to go to some people we knew in the local government to find someone who would get him to knock it the fuck off.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

"Police"? Police officers are not monolithic cookie cutter slabs of flesh who come ready-made out of a vat. They're human beings who have a variety of personalities and motivations and backgrounds. So the answer is "it depends." I've heard that a lot of the shittiest individuals get assigned to shitty neighborhoods, for some nonsensical reason, when it really should be the other way around.

Evaluating police departments is more useful, because a shittily-run one will have a lot of scum in it who drown out the good ones, while a well-run one will weed out the scum carefully so they get booted out as soon as they show their scumminess. But even the best-managed police departments will always have some bad ones, and even the worst police departments usually have some good ones (and the good ones in the worst departments are the most important ones).

And when it does come to bad departments, individual police officers can also work against other police's corruption and incompetence (e.g., Frank Serpico, etc).

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

Shit, I'm a law-abiding citizen living in Los Angeles: I love the police. They're polite and helpful and actually reliable. And I don't live in the best neighborhood, so I've seen enough of them.

Plus I loooove that uniform.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[fingalsanteater]

Police don't care about burglary at all. They're just there to take a report of what's stolen so you can have something to show to your insurance (if you have any). My house was robbed twice as a kid (door kicked in, house vandalized, the works) and the cops were like "cool story, can I go now" through the whole report. If they can't threaten to arrest (I was threatened with arrest because I was crying- just crying, not cursing or being mean- while getting a ticket after already having a very bad day) or harass you, in my experience, they don't really care about anything.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

I try and remember the ones you hear about are ones you hear about for a reason. I imagine most police officers are just doing their (very dangerous) jobs. However, I also think there's a lot of people who become cops because they're assholes.

I do think that there's times people complain about police when they or those they are speaking up for haven't helped themselves. Remember, you have rights, but they do not include resisting arrest (which in itself is illegal) or fighting with the officer. They say if you're close to a wild animal, the worst thing you could do is run, make sudden movements or start throwing things at it. On the other hand, a police officer isn't a wild animal, he or she is presumably a person, and that's where the system fails.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

In my home country of Nigeria, absolutely not. No one I knew there even reported crimes because we all knew there was no chance that anything would get done without heavy bribery. You either had your neighborhood form their own watch group or you were on your own.

In America? A little more so. It's a step up, not that this is saying much.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[dethtoll]

Outside of a few cops in my neighborhood, the cops over in Lincoln Heights (which is all black and so are the cops), and some of the cops in Evendale, no.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[darkmanifest]

Trust? Not really. I'm not against them, and in fact I have no choice but to rely on them sometimes, but I never presume they're there to protect me or people I care about as citizens, only to protect themselves and the law. I regard the uniform with caution, keep my nose clean, and keep my distance, until I have no choice but to interact with them.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[aboutelle]

I see individual police(wo)men as "friend and helper". If I needed help and an officer was nearby, I'd never hesitate to approach them.

I am aware that this naive trust I feel is based on being privileged though. I know that the police as an institution in my country is just as xenophobic as American police.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[ill_omened]

Yes.

Then again, when you work in the system on a daily basis you actually get to appreciate the reality of things then a once off anecdote of your personal perception of what happened without understanding any of the background.

That's not to say every single police officer ever is perfect, but hell the same is true of doctors, and they're orders of magnitude more likely to kill me through incompetence then boydem ever would be.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[making_excuses]

About 90%, sometimes they make mistakes, sometimes they don't do their jobs well enough. The latter is mostly down to budget cuts, not so much the individual police officers. I do trust them to come and help me if I had to call tho, I trust that they won't hurt me and help me as much as they are able to if I needed help. As long as it isn't during the Summer break back in my home country because then my local police station will be closed for 4 weeks and help will be at the least 2 hours away and if you are unlucky 6 hours away, because they responded to something in the opposite direction.

I do trust them a bit less lately as all of those who are certified to be armed are, because apparently having a heightened terror threat will be fixed with guns... You know so they can shoot the bomb or something?

The rest of the system is worse, the jails have waiting lists longer than most exclusive public schools, the crime labs are as useful as a school lab and with the same amount of staff... You'd have to schedule your court appearance before you need it to get the case done before sometime in the middle of 2040. I am exaggerating quite a bit right now, I do realize I am as lucky as I can be, but I also have a shiny new gouvernement who prioritized tax cuts so much that teachers will have to be fired next year to save money. And most of the counties that need more police officers wont get them next year, because they can't look at numbers and understand that places with a lot of overtime needs police officers more than places without it.

That was a lot of words to say, yes I do trust them and I think it sucks that not everyone can!

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

As individuals? Some yes, some no.

As a group? Fuck no. People talk about a "militarized police force" in the US, but here's the thing. The actual US military has far more oversight and is held far more accountable than many, if not most, police departments. People actually do get dismissed from the military for conduct unbecoming. Police get paid administrative leave until the DA decides that all actions were justified.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

When something was stolen from my house--something valuable--I called the police. They came by in short order, but when they saw that the bedroom wasn't sufficiently ransacked, I became the prime suspect. I even got grilled by a detective when I went to drop something off at the police station later on.

Still, I trust the police, because, who else can you trust. They probably see a ton of shit which helps to reinforce their mannerisms. When I worked for a livery cab driving company, one of the employee allowances was to be able to abandon jobs where the pick-up environment seemed sketchy. Safety was a priority. I can imagine the cops, being in such a perilous position all the time, have a similar mantra.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[diet_poison]

I haven't had very many interactions with the police. The one time I (well, my mom and I) called them because of an actual crime (the only time I called them myself being the time I got into a car wreck) they took 10 minutes to get there, so that didn't lead me to believe they were very reliable, but it was one incident and the problem was likely partly because some of their districting lines had just been redrawn in stupid ways.

For the organization as a whole it has a shitton of big problems (as witnessed by some of the major issues currently in the news). I wouldn't automatically assume an individual cop is corrupt or incompetent; probably more of them are good than not, but I don't trust the organization.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

I'd like to believe I could trust them, but I'm not certain I could. Police have a hugely important job that should require a higher caliber sort of individual than the general population, but the question is, does that actually happen? Sadly, the news and history bears out the argument that cops are human, like everyone else. There are good cops and bad cops, but you won't know which one is standing in front of you until their actions either help you or harm you. So how safe does that feel? Not very, IMO.

Re: Do you trust your police?

[(Anonymous)]

I have faith that they aren't going to kill me for no reason, because unless they speak to me, I'm just another white boy to them and if something happened in my neighborhood, I wouldn't be the one they'd shoot first and ask questions about later.

I have no faith in their intelligence whatsoever though. We had someone stealing shit out of our backyard over the summer (like the lawnmower that was chained not only to the fence, but to the grill as well), and after three police reports (two of which included video evidence of someone in the act), they did absolutely nothing. Couldn't do anything for us, nope, but hey, they responded near immediately when the guy called them and said an angry fat man with an enormous dog and a shotgun had him trapped in the shed. I got cited for menacing or some bullshit and I'm pretty sure the only reason they didn't take my dog is because that'd require they be competent, shed guy got nothing so far as I know.