[ SECRET POST #2926 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2926 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

02. http://i.imgur.com/MQ8v2bC.jpg

[kaijinscendre]

It only bothers me when people try to say their headcanon is more canon than actual canon. I got plenty of headcanons, but at the end of the day I don't think they are true.

[mekkio]

Same. Or it really bothers me when certain fans try shout down the actual show/movie/comic/book writers, themselves, in a "I know the characters better than you do" way. That just smacks of arrogance on a level that any one who wears it, should be ashamed of themselves. But they never are.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Or when fanon should be canon, especially when the fanon is so far from the authorial intent.

I did that once, I'll admit; when the fifth Harry Potter book came out, I said "JK Rowling got the Marauders wrong" on one of the forums. One of the site mods was like "uh... they're her characters?"

Yeah, that's now my philosophy on the matter.

[philstar22]

True. Although, I do think there are instances of authors getting the character wrong (nothing is ever going to convince me that anyone in the How I Met Your Mother final was in-character). But canon is still canon, and headcanons are great but aren't canon.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Or my headcanon should become canon, because social justice!

[kallanda_lee]

Yeah, I agree.

I'm all for deviating from canon in fic and art, or even exploring different canon possibilities in meta.

But fact is, it is what it is. You do not have better knowledge of the character that the people who write him/her.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree so hard. i wish fandom wasn't riddled with brats who think they know characters better than the ones who wrote them.

[(Anonymous)]

My thoughts exactly. It's one thing to have headcanons and theories, but I'm also of the mindset that if you're going to get that defensive or protective of a headcanon for a character, you might as well consider creating your own stories with a character that fits that headcanon.

[(Anonymous)]

My main fandom is currently kerfluffling all over the place because of this, because it is for a game and they think that getting to create a character to play within the world means that every character in the world is theirs to headcanon into whatever they want them to be. Which, sure, in your game, but a lot of them want to have their headcanons treated as canon in discussions about the material (some even expect the developers themselves to respect their headcanons).

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, the vast majority of the fandom thinks the latter group is a bunch of crazy people. They're just extremely loud crazy people.

[elialshadowpine]

Let me guess. Dragon Age?

[(Anonymous)]

I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of the two extremes. No, nobody is obligated to respect anyone else's headcanon. On the other hand, sometimes writers get shit wrong, or make mistakes, or purposefully retcon characters into something OOC, and it's totally fine for anyone to call writers out on that or headcanon it away.

[diet_poison]

"canon can't have my character"? lol what. that's so entitled.

[intrigueing]

I tend to really enjoy coming up with elaborate theories in order to get writers' OOC writing to make sense, but some people are so ridiculously myopic about how their interpretation is the only possible interpretation that it gets really ridiculous sometimes. I mean, there's a difference between "that episode was OOC, X wouldn't be that much of a jerk for no reason" and "doing that means X is a racist classist facist who supports Colonialism because of my interpretation."

[lb_lee]

Admittedly, one of the things I love about writing the way I do is that if someone's headcanon is that good, I can retcon it to be canon.

This has happened a couple times; most notably when one of my main characters ended up trans, which totally changed the direction his arc went in, but in my opinion, he ended up way more interesting and with more to do in the story because of it. And I didn't have to change DICK.

[xenomantid]

And I didn't have to change DICK.

I sincerely admire the way you put that.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that with the way media is created this kind of thing is completely justified.

Nowadays many fandoms are created by different writers, and as a result of this the characterization can be inconsistent. And that's when executive meddling doesn't force the writers to do something completely OOC and that goes against the writer's original vision.

Media is not tied to a external reality - these days it's not even tied to the writer's vision, for the reasons mentioned above. So why not give up on canon purism and embrace whatever interpretation of the characters makes sense to you?

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[(Anonymous)]

Image: a hole in the ground (maybe a pit mine?) surrounded by what looks like either a city or a manufacturing complex.
Text: I know people aren’t obliged to worship canon and have problems with how something is written, but the recent trend of “NO, THESE CHARACTERS BELONG TO ME, CANON CAN’T HAVE THEM” is really obnoxious (and it’s usually as a response to a character doing something that disagrees with their headcanon…).

[stabbystabbyzebra]

The unbridled hypocrisy of the ones shines through the door with the light of oppression.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh boy, I hate this shit with a passion as well. Headcanon whatever you want, but when you start saying your headcanons override canon? Haha, no.

[ketita]

ugh this happened to me with a fic I was writing. At one point, I had a character who turned into a dragon. Somebody came into the comments saying they wanted to do fanart of the dragon (yay!), and asked me what he looked like, and then said they imagine him as black with lots of frills.
I responded that I don't know about frills, but he'd be a silvery dragon and not a black dragon because it provides a bit less of an obvious target.
Her response was "yes but I imagine him black" and then made up something about how it would be 'easier' for him to be a black dragon because changing his scale colors would be more difficult.
And I was just like ??????????????????????????????????
I mean what do you even say to that.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I agree.

I just wonder if some people think I'm like that because I'm very attached to my muses who have wandered off-canon quite far.

[(Anonymous)]

The Destihellers are so awful about that. Like I have my own headcanons/fanon about Dean being bi, but it's not canon. Then they want Dean to be bi only for Castiel.

[hiyami]

Is that the Hellmouth?