[ SECRET POST #2957 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2957 ⌋

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[fscom]

04. http://i.imgur.com/VuvjLWd.png

[(Anonymous)]

"Queer platonic"?

Please don't tell me this is an actual term that SJWs use.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yes! For people who want to be LGBT without being LGBT. Queer platonic, aka close friends of the same sex.

[(Anonymous)]

It is. It's basically bromance but you can put queer in it for ... imaginary points? Even though it's not queer? Or something

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe not SJWs, but it was a thing on asexual tumblr. It's hard to pin down who would be the SJWs but lots of people called it dumb and vaguely homophobic. It's like with various heterosexuals calling themselves queer, who are the real SJWs? The ones that say having blue hair makes you queer or those who think that saying that blue hair makes you queer is homophobic?

[dreemyweird]

IDK, I like that there's a word that implies a possibility of a long-term commitment of the sort some romantic people undertake more strongly than "best friend" does. I find that the meaning of "best friend" tends to get undervalued by some, and that it doesn't make it immediately obvious that living together might be an option.

But I hate the fact that there had to be a "queer" in it, and that it had to be connected to LGBT+ somehow. If it weren't for these two factors, I might even use it.

[were_lemur]

I've seen it used by Aro-Ace people for the people in their lives who they have a long-term non-sexy-or-romantic partnership with. Which, okay, A in QUILTBAG.

But applying it to a couple of straight dudes? Ew.

[(Anonymous)]

your right

We should use Moirallegiance

[(Anonymous)]

queer platonic is still one of the dumbest things I've heard people use. because "friend" isn't special enough I guess. I've even seen it being used by characters in fic and it's an instant back button for me because I can't really imagine any character knowing wtf it is

[(Anonymous)]

Okay dokey. Wasn't the world a lovely place when best friends could be best friends without a complicated label?

[(Anonymous)]

No. HOW DO YOU GET OPPRESSION POINTS WITHOUT A LABEL>?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I think these people need friends. Tho with all the labels they wear, and presumably are looking to match up, they won't ever have any. Which is. Kind of pitiful, no?

[intrigueing]

Pretty sure people who think they need this label to make a friendship meaningful have never actually had any friends.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen some SJWs refer to 'bromance' as a misogynistic term because men are trying to make the word 'romance' for them.

[(Anonymous)]

I reflexively despised this secret.

Then I took a breath, calmed down, and reminded myself that people who say 'queerplatonic' are the people for whom the term 'social justice warrior' was coined and the secret is not actually about social activism being a bad thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Huh - don't know why, I always thought queerplatonic was for when two people of incompatible sexualities got together in a romantic way.

Like, guy A and guy B get together, and they love each other, and they want to be committed to each other, but it's like, dude, sorry, but my boner points to girls. Totally soft over here - your genitals do not entice me. Or girl A and girl B - you are my best friend, and I have tummy butterflies around you. But, not to be mean, girl bits kinda look like the fleshy gates of hell and are not my thing at all. So, no mutual orgasms but I am totally up for making a home together and possibly co-parenting.

Because then it's a queer relationship - or at least, not heteronormative - but platonic because no naked funtimes.

I'm a bit sad now I know the truth. =(

[intrigueing]

When I first heard this, I thought it meant "platonic friendship between two people who are also queer."

Like, for example, you have two gay guys who are best friends/do everything together/really love each other, but just because they're attracted to men and are best friends, they're not attracted to/in love with each other. Kind of the same vibe as a platonic best-friendship between a heterosexual man and a heterosexual woman - their lack of attraction to each other isn't because they have incompatible sexual orientations.

I thought "okay, weird tumblr label, but I guess it makes sense that it developed. People are always assuming queer people's love is defined by their sexual relationships."

Then I later found out that it wasn't used that specifically at all. It was just some dumb special snowflake word for "best friends." I was disappoint.

[(Anonymous)]

So, am I the only one who doesn't see this as an unreasonable label, provided it's in the context of gay BFFs?

[(Anonymous)]

Heterosexual life partners or platonic life partners. Brother from another mother. Sister from another mister. Those are the terms everybody's looking for. Stronger than "best friend", stronger than "best friend forever", clearly defines both the lack of romantic/sexual/familial bonds going on AND, by invoking the aforementioned at all, how this platonic bond is just as "more important" than they are often implied to be.

Also doesn't appropriate actual queerness, nor does it let the SJWs get away with trying to claim minority cookies/oppression points by comparing it to queerness even a little.

Why not just "platonic soulmates"?

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, what does the "queer" part add unless their queerness has something to do with their friendship?

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[(Anonymous)]

Text: I find it hilarious that the same SJW types who will flail about BrOTP’s being just a way to have two white dudes hang out but ~No Homo~ will be all over how awesome and gay friendly they are if they call the same two dudes QueerPlatonic Soulmates.

[dahli]

Queer... platonic? *googles*

....What the.... What the hell am I reading, lmao.

describing a relationship which is more intense and intimate than is considered common or normal for a "friendship", but doesn't fit the traditional sexual-romantic couple model.

Yeah, I like to call that kind of relationship "having a best friend". This is the equivalent of saying "It's only gay if the balls are touching". Also why does it say that it's "Queer" if, according to this, sexuality is not important in said friendship? This term is contradicting itself quite a lot.

I was going to get super snarky but this is so ridiculous it doesn't deserve my snark. Just keep on shining, you special snowflakes!

[lb_lee]

I was kinda surprised that this was a big deal. The only time I've ever encountered the 'queer platonic' term was a story serial involving a trans guy and a cis guy deciding to live together, share a bed, and raise a child together, and feeling very firmly committed to their relationship, which just had no romance or sexual component. (And also getting jealous if they saw someone as 'competition' for their partner's attention and affection.)

And even then, it was used maybe like, once, and only in the notes accompanying one of the first works. I admit, 'best friends forever' or 'heterosexual life partners' doesn't seem to quite cover that situation.

(They were Frankenstein and Igor. It is AWESOME and I own a compendium of it.)

--Rogan

[(Anonymous)]

all the "SJWs" I know on tumblr oppose this "queer platonic" garbage because it's insulting to people who are actually LGBT and makes a mockery of the queer community– which is apparently the hip new fun club that every straight person is eager to join (but without any of the actual oppression of course). they also oppose otherkin and "bunself" people trying to co-opt the queer label. but they'd still be considered "SJWs" by the anti-feminist half of tumblr, even if they're level-headed and middle-of-the-road.

my point is that "SJW" has lost all meaning.

and "queer platonic" is stupid as shit.

[annethecatdetective]

My problem isn't with queerplatonic-- queer people need to have platonic friends who understand what it's like to be in the same kind of place you're in in life, after all. It's a term I've only seen recently, and I don't always agree about every interpretation of a pair of characters as having that type of relationship, but as a word, it's a useful way of distinguishing that these two people are both gay/bi/pan/whatever, and love each other, but are not romantically in love with each other or sleeping together.

But I do have a problem with people hating on other platonic relationships, be they two men, two women, a man and a woman, whatever. Everyone needs friends, after all, and it's possible to have romantic friendships-- which is not the same thing as a romance-- with same-sex friends even if you yourself are straight as an arrow.

I mean, look at... well, anywhere in classic literature, honestly. Especially if there's a military type setting, you'll see straight men who can't go ten minutes without swearing their love for one of their friends, dying in each other's arms, all that stuff.

It's fine to want queer interpretations of those relationships-- that's nothing new, academics have been arguing about how gay literary characters are for forever. It's also fine to think of them as being brotherly. Or 'just' friends, as long as you understand none of these interpretations diminishes the depth of the characters' feelings.