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[ SECRET POST #3177 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3177 ⌋

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Not having anyone to share them with. Not everybody thrives/wants to be alone.

True, but it'd be nice to see someone who wasn't all "I just want to be loved and liked and full up on friends and family!" Why CAN'T there be a Disney princess who likes their solitude?

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hiyami - 2015-09-16 19:26 (UTC) - Expand

Eventually starving to death would suck.

lmfao, came here to say this.

Ice palace is cool but wtf do you even eat, you can't exactly have ovens or any way to cook food that isn't meant to be eaten cold.

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paranoid_anon - 2015-09-16 00:37 (UTC) - Expand

See, but Elsa knew that Anna had no idea she had powers. And if you remember, Anna accepted her immediately and defended her right from the instant she discovered Elsa's powers. I think it's because Anna didn't reject her and immediately accepted her powers that Elsa realized she could have her powers and her old life without being afraid to be herself anymore.

But true, it would be pretty sweet to live in an ice palace, but wouldn't it be more fun to be able to live in your real palace with friends and family and maybe go up to your ice palace when you need some solitude?

IA, Anna did not try to 'stifle' Elsa. It sucks that OP feels their family is doing so (and if that's the case, I hope they realize it one day and stop), but at least in Elsa's world she could keep everything she already had (gorgeous castle, loving sister, etc) and still stay true to herself.

While some people might embrace that kind of seclusion (which, fair enough), Elsa didn't seem to want it.

Plus, as others have said, living alone far from everything (she would have to hunt for food, there's not anything to DO in the ice castle except chill ~~sorry, not sorry~~) seems like a difficult life, and she would have to adapt to it. Some people don't have that in them. (Or wouldn't want to have to, if they had an alternative.)

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You sound like a real piece of work, OP. Are you unfamiliar with the concept of actions having consequences, or do you think that no consequences could possibly be as important as your precious feelings? Or did you just turn off the movie after "Let It Go"?

They sound immature really, like they're not thinking through things.

okaaaay what's your damage? What this had to no with the secret?

Lack of utilities and food? Boredom?

Sooo you don't care if an entire kingdom freezes to death, because of your issues with your family?

Okay. Great queen you'd be

Oh, I forgot about the kingdom freezing...

Which is a pretty major part of the movie, wtf self. (To my credit, I've seen it once.)

Yea, even a worse idea, then.

Wow. Talk about selfish and irresponsible.

I'm gonna take this opportunity to talk about how much I hate that their parents are fairly villified. Or at least seen as casually abusive, I don't know. I thought it was really very obvious that the early death of Elsa's parents left her to obsessively warp their warnings and failsafes into self-fear and self-hate. They didn't know how to handle her abilities (abilities that very newrly killed her sister) and neither did she, being a child. They seemed really caring and well-meaning, and were bothered by Elsa's self-imposed isolation. It's also important to remember that Elsa remembers the traumatic event. Frozen, to me, seemed to be about accepting oneself, not overcoming what everyone else thinks of you. Elsa needed to forgive, move on, get over it. Etc. She stifled herself.

YMMV of course.

Exactly my thoughts.

The father taught her "conceal it don't feel it" which basically amounts to teaching her to control her emotions and not freak out everytime she ices something.

Years later Elsa has turned it into "conceal, don't feel"

Removing the "it" changes the entire meaning. Her dad was talking about reacting to the ice, she is talking about her feelings.

At the end of the day, they were trying to teach her to control her emotions and I would bet that once she learned to they would have become more open and talked to Anna about it. Honestly I get the idea Elsa never got over her guilt for what happened to Anna. Her parents didn't blame her they understood she was a child. But she seemed to have never forgiven herself, and that's why her first move when the incident at the coronation happened was to remove herself and isolate herself.

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Didn't her parents send away most of the staff etc specifically to isolate her so she couldn't hurt anyone else and try and help her control her magic with no one else seeing? And keep her in her room while trying to train her? I agree it's about accepting oneself, but she only needs to do that as an adult because she hurt her sister by accident, her parents freak and try and get her to control her powers, whereas before they just let her get on with dealing with them herself. The accident scene show Elsa could control her powers fairly well before the accident scared everyone (and the accident, iirc, was only because she 'threw' her ice eithout realising where Anna would be flying after sliding off the last piece of ice, not because she was actually being stupid or trying to hurt her).

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To me they seems like prents who care and try to help but have no clue what they are doing. They didn't ask the troll the exact meaning of his prediction, didn't even try to explain to Anna. I only watched it once so I don't remember exactly if it would be bad if she remembers, but they could at least have made up some reason, like Elsa is sick or something instead of leaving her thinking that Elsa just stops talking to her. They try to teach Elsa about something they themselves don't know much about, and isolated her without knowing for sure how it would affect her. They have good intention, but that doesn't mean they were doing good. It makes them more human, like normal parents can be.

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If they hadn't gotten that stupid "advice" from the rock trolls they probably would have made some better decisions, like taking Elsa to the mountains to let her develop and control her powers and be more confident with them.

God I hate those trolls.

It's something called running away from your responsibilities, anon. As someone who does it a lot (and trying to change), it's not a good thing. You can be happy for a while until you realize all the consequences. If Elsa stays in that mountain and her kingdom and Anna really freezes to death she would feel even more horrible than she would earlier.

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the ice palace is in good hands if elsa ever feels like getting away for a weekend of r&r.

tiara!

I know it's not the point of this secret, but my GOD but I hate Disney brows.

That sounds like it'd be nice for a week, and then you remember why most of us live in societies and aren't mountain hermits. Subsistence living is something that I occasionally daydream about but acknowledge is pretty much beyond the abilities of a city girl like myself.

As others have said, at the stage of the movie when Elsa first flees up the mountain, she is not doing it for an honest wish to be alone. She is doing it because she is afraid of her lack of control over her powers. That lack of control happens the most around other people, so she fled to get away from people and the emotions they would induce in her.

She needed to get over that fear, which meant she had to return to being around people and be able to be around them for long periods.

On the other hand, I do passingly recall a fic that had a mention that Elsa still had the ice palace and would sometimes go there when she wanted some alone time. So try imagine that instead - an Elsa who is not afraid to be among people, but sometimes leaves Arendelle in Anna's hands and has some alone time in her ice palace (with Marshmallow and all the sneeze-induced mini snowmen).

What everyone else said, plus sex with snowmen would get (c)old soon.

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