[ SECRET POST #3289 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3289 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Furiosa from Mad Max: Fury Road, AEon Flux from the AEon Flux Movie. Charlize Theron]


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03.
[WWE/Supernatural]


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04.
[The Price of Salt/Carol]


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05.
[Bravely Default]


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[Bones/X-Files]


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[Zenon]


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08.
[Fallout: Nuka Break]


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09.
[Neko Atsume]


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[Mass Effect]

















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 033 secrets from Secret Submission Post #470.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/omzm0UD.jpg
[Bones/X-Files]

[(Anonymous)]

X-Files rip-offs are worse than most ripoffs because that Mulder/Scully casting and characterization was a one-of-a-kind lightning in a bottle thing. EVERYTHING similar to it looks bad next to it. Good ripoffs look mediocre, and mediocre ripoffs look shitty.

[(Anonymous)]

Also because their relationship had a lot going on outside of will they or won't they tension.

Also because it genuinely wasn't clear whether or not the creators were going to go that way. Whereas most will they or won't they situations, it's incredibly obvious.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I wouldn't have shipped them so hard if their relationship as partners and friends wasn't so well developed. All along, they were friends with a huge amount of mutual respect and it made the possible romantic dynamic so much more enticing.

[philstar22]

I think this is a bit ridiculous. There have been similar relationships before and since. Will-they-won't-they couples, friends and partners who end up falling for each other, chemistry. These are all things that have been done many times successfully. X-files is a good example, but it isn't the only good example.

Plus, these things are so subjective anyway. Chemistry is subjective. There are people who don't think Mulder and Scully work well romantically or who don't like the archetype, or don't see any chemistry, and that is fine.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much.

[blitzwing]

"a clueless moron"

Aren't you a prize.

[(Anonymous)]

??

[(Anonymous)]

Are you perhaps a clueless moron yourself?

[(Anonymous)]

I kind of think that Booth and Bones are the only tolerable thing about that show. I kind of wanted the other characters to be machete murdered and made into salsa. As far as the dynamic goes, though, a lot of shows have followed the M/S template (they also weren't the first partner pairing, as much as I love and ship them).

[(Anonymous)]

I kind of wanted the other characters to be machete murdered and made into salsa.

OMG, lol, you're terrible! And creative. No, I will not have some of your salsa, thank you very much.

[philstar22]

I thought the Booth and Brennan relationship was awesome. Until they actually got together and the show completely destroyed Brennan's character. It used to be that both their perspectives were shown to be equally valid, just different. Then it became alla bout Booth being right, Brennan being wrong, and all about her having to change. And then they had a child and she became the stereotypical mother even though he was actually the nurturing one because she's the woman so of course she has to be the primary parent right?

Ugh. I used to really love this show, and now it just makes me angry.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Brennan being uncharacteristically stupid for the sake of Booth getting an "I told you so."

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds sadly typical. Brennan's personality and characteristics have always been suspiciously malleable depending on what the writers needed that week. So one day she'd be so out of touch with reality and other human beings she doesn't know how to talk to grieving parents, then next week she's so good at relationships she manages to have healthy FWB hookups with hot guys who aren't psychos. The writing on this show has always been a weak link, IMO.

[tabaqui]

Absolutely everything you said here, omfg.

[sarillia]

I completely agree about Brennan. I used to like Bones until her attitude started annoying me too much. How does someone with an anthropology background have such apathy for the basic idea of understanding how people behave?

[philstar22]

I'm the opposite. What made me give up on Bones was how Booth was always proven right and Brennan was always wrong. Yes, she was often clueless on social cues and basic behavior. But it was clear on the show that she was clueless in that way. And she always had to learn to change whereas Booth was always right. Emotions were always shown to be superior to logic. It got old after a while.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Because she's written dumb to make Booth look good.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like that's kinda the POINT though, because she views all that behavior, no matter the culture, from the perspective of an outsider. No matter where she is, she's going to have to view things from a scholarly point because it's the only way she can connect with them.

[(Anonymous)]

"Clueless scientist"

Oh. Back when I was still watching it, Season 4 I think, fandom was assuming she was an Aspie and that's why she was so off-center about emotional connections. I thought that was a refreshing angle. Guess not.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, it would be refreshing if it was consistent. I thought she was an Aspie as well, but they never come out and say it, and then every once in a while they show her having perfectly normal relationships just 'cause, as if her social awkwardness never existed.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. I'd especially like to see more female Aspies in media personally. Bring more awareness to the fact that girls do get it and autism spectrum disorders aren't a 'male disorder'.

[(Anonymous)]

I never liked them, either, but mainly because Booth comes off like a somewhat sexist know it all douchebag, and Brennan is just so, so, so unlikable.

I don't know that I'd agree they ripped off X-Files because male/female partners that eventually get together has been around forever and X-Files wasn't the first, but they definitely felt much more like equals, who like you said, had mutual respect. Whereas Booth and Brennan come across (at least in the later seasons) as him always being right and knowing what's best for her. I think he seems more like her father these days, and that's just creepy.

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. I may have been the person whose comment you're refer to in your secret, OP. I think it was back a month or so ago, and I said something about how Bones had always felt remarkably like fluffy, shippy X-Files fanfic? If so, that was me.

Anyway, I don't personally despise the first few seasons of Bones (which are the seasons I saw before I bailed). I also don't think I would call Bones a ripoff. But it certainly does feel derivative of MSR, in a really particular way - almost as though the Bones writing team had several avid readers/writers of fluffy MSR fanfic in their ranks. (Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist here, I'm just saying that's what it felt like.)

Actually, that quality was what made me fond of Bones for a few seasons, despite its mediocrity. I was so intensely in love with Mulder and Scully that anything which reminded me of them had an automatic in with me. But despite that, I can also see where you're coming from, OP. A lot of things about the writing of Bones bugged the crap out of me, and I would never personally compare the two shows or pairings as though they were equals. If I saw the pairings as being in competition with each other, I would want to clobber Booth/Brennan into the ground. They're like twinkies for dinner and ice cream for dessert. Whereas Mulder and Scully were a four course meal (at least for the first 5 - 7 seasons).

[hiyami]

The thing is, she came off as an Aspie more believably in the first seasons. Then with the influence of Booth and interacting with people (Angela notably), she became slightly more emotional and closer to people in general, which is what behavorial therapy does in a way : teaching Aspie the clues that don't come naturally to them about dealing with non-Aspie and a world designed for neurotypicals.

in season 1 I liked her difference because she came off as terribly logical but not judgemental. It just happened to brush people the wrong way when she said she didn't want kids (as she did on a TV show), for example, because a lot of people assume that if you say you don't like something, you imply "Everyone who likes this is a complete idiot and should learn the Truth".

While later in the show, when she and Booth became an item, they erased all that evolution to make her turn into a clueless moron. Which she was *not* earlier.

Earlier, she didn't connect very well with people because she was overly rational (pretty much a Vulcan with round ears). But she did understand people in a way, in an entomologist way, because she studied them the same way she does with bones. She simply didn't share a lot of their opinions / beliefs, and lacked empathy.

Later, she was shown as clueless and insulting like a walking cliché.