[ SECRET POST #433 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #433 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 80 secrets from Secret Submission Post #062.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 2 3 4 5 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] too big, [ 1 2 ] repeat, [ 1 ] personal attack.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

35, 49, 71

[tadashi-chan.livejournal.com]

35. ARE YOU ME?????

49. I thought most people thought he was a total jerkoff...?

71. YES! NEAR! <3

[plazmah.livejournal.com]

54. OMG MADHURI. I need to see this movie like burning.

[ihearttoronto.livejournal.com]

35: Brois ftw
42: yah me too. just so that Squidward can find a REAL job after the KK closes down. lol. and for Krabs to shove his greed up his ass.

too big 4

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

Sigh. You know what? I'm sick and tired of hearing people tell me that if I don't like the female characters in some cliched shounen anime then I'm sexist. And yes, that's what this is about, so bear with me as I tl;dr...

Shounen anime =/= real life, let me establish that first. Shounen anime as a whole tend to run by a different set of rules. Let's face it: when it comes right down to it shounen anime are about 1) achievement through competition and 2) teamwork. Some shows focus more heavily on the teamwork aspect - this is more true for sports manga or something like One Piece which rails off about nakama every five minutes - but shows like Bleach and Naruto are about dominance through - let's face it - physical strength.

Naruto is the hero precisely because we know he's the greatest fighter in the show. The biggest roles are given to characters that can fight - because fight scenes = screentime = development = importance. A shounen worldview is drenched in traditional masculine values.

Now while I would say that in The Real World, there is NOTHING wrong with being normal like early!Sakura, or having a crush on a cute boy. But in a shounen-verse? Shounen REVOLVES around the masculine world of displays of strength and power, and let's face it, Naruto is a male-centric, male-dominated cast - characters like Sakura and Ino and Hinata and that chick in Rock Lee's team whose name I can't even remember because she has virtually no role are run over roughshod early on precisely because they are girls, the weakest link in all their respective teams and get the least screentime out of all their teams.

The reason girls like Temari and the Fifth are popular is because they AREN'T the weakest link, they AREN'T the 'girl on the team' - they stand toe to toe with the men in a society which revolves around BATTLE.

Consider the early part of the show. Naruto is dealing with a lot of heavy stuff involving rejection and the search for acceptance while Sasuke is still pretty fucked over Itachi yadda yadda. Their characters and rivalry are deepened and Sakura is... what, exactly? Yes, there's nothing wrong with being a normal girl... but this is a FREAKING CITY OF NINJAS. These people send their children out to kill (well, theoretically, anyway...) for money and prestige and Sakura's sitting there worrying about boys and her hair and going on a diet! It's absolutely absurd!

Nearly every single cast member gets some angsty flashback of some sort or another... Sakura gets a flashback of FLOWER ARRANGING. WHAT THE FUCK.

It's not Sakura. I don't have this raging hatred for Sakura 'OMG HAET SHE'S GETTING IN THE WAY OF SASUNARU TRU LUB'. My problem is that Naruto is, in many ways, a rather sexist manga. If there's one scene that just made me go, 'guhhhhhh' it's when Sasuke left Konoha. Sakura cries and begs him, 'noooo Sasuke don't leave me' while Naruto goes out and decides to kick Sasuke's ass.

Now personally I think both courses of action are asinine (it was Sasuke's own damn decision to leave, they should have left him to it IMHO), but WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE MANGA Naruto's course of action is proven to be 'right' when, after the timeskip, Sakura jumps on Naruto's bandwagon and decides to take Sasuke back by force.

Kishimoto giving Sakura a powerup after the timeskip was not just a powerup - it was accompanied by a significant amount of maturity on her part as she abandoned both her mindless antagonism toward Naruto (about damn time) and her baseless crush on Sasuke, forming a deep sense of friendship and cameradie regarding the two of them. She became more confident, more independent, more capable and finally an actual fucking ninja instead of a little girl playing on the battlefield. THAT'S why I like post-timeskip Sakura and not pre-timeskip Sakura.

...though in general I don't really like Naruto at all. :/ I stopped following... ehh, even before Jiraiya died. It's not that great a show, gais. Go watch Berserk or something.

Re: too big 4

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

...to add even more tl;dr to this pile (and hopefully incite some wank about girls in anime!!11), let me say this when it comes to girls in anime: there is nothing wrong with traditionally feminine qualities, mkay? But when there becomes an overarching trend for these girls to have a certain set of qualities, you start to wonder where it comes from. I'm so, SO sick of getting flack for criticizing female characters in stuff like Naruto and even in shoujo (like... oh lawd everything by Mayu Shinjo, for example). Japan is a sexist society in many ways and that tendency comes across in LOTS of anime! The girls in these shows often represent a set of societal values that I, being not Japanese, cannot identify with - and I think a lot of people feel the same way. Not to say that there isn't undeserved hate out there... BUT ANIME GIRLS ARE NOT ALWAYS THE EPITOME OF AWESOMENESS, OKAY?!

Gylaaaargh.

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[(Anonymous)]

No, PLEASE! PLEASE MAKE IT ;_;!! I'll post something in that comm EVERY SINGLE DAY! MLPs = My first fandom and my oldest... besides She-ra

Not!Secret 4

[likeafox.livejournal.com]

I think it's perfectly legitimate to start liking her after the time jump. Generally, I'm not a huge fan of characters like pre-time jump Sakura. Didn't hate her at the time, just mostly indifferent/wishing she would get some more screen time that didn't revolve around Sasuke. It's a matter of personal preference. But I love the fact that when things went to hell in a handbasket, she grew stronger and grew out of some of her former insecurities/dependence on other people. I think it speaks volume about her personal strength, and if that's not a real reason to like a character, I don't know what it.

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[abrandnewboom.livejournal.com]

42. I AWAIT THIS DAY!!!!! :3
49. I dunno. I started out reading the scanlation manga. I've only watched three eps of the anime. Maybe there's some slight difference that the manga readers picked up? I dunno. I like the manga best.

Re: 49

[redeternity90.livejournal.com]

No, I think you're right, actually. :3 I read the manga first and then watched the anime later and I noticed that he came off as more of a jerk in the anime. It would be interesting to see if I had hated him if I watched the anime first.

Imo, the anime made him appear evil from the start, whilst in the manga you could really sense his innocence and naivety in the first few chapters, and the extent to which the Death Note corrupted him over time. In the first episode of the anime, they did various things such as making him eyes look all blank in the classroom scene (I suppose that was to make him look bored, but it didn't really come off that way), having his bedroom completely dark (in the manga, it was pretty bright which symbolised to me Light's hope for the future. Ryuk was by contrast the dark, sinister presence leading him astray), the fact that unlike in the manga he didn't hide under his bedsheets in fear after his first murder etc etc. It all gave the impression that he was nasty by nature which I don't think was the case.

Although that's not to say it's just the anime-only or anime-first people that hate Light. ;_;

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[filed.livejournal.com]

i was so pissed off that they axed the show. i still wonder what would've happened.

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[mystic-reader.livejournal.com]

52- I am a HUGE Sam/Dean shipper.. but you just sound like a dope.

56- I feel the exact same way about a WIP fic that I am reading in my fandom.. the plot and story is awesome and I want to read it. But I swear she writes the chapters in real time.. so many pointless chapters to get through before she gets to the meaningful stuff.

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[caudelac.livejournal.com]

that Shadow Hearts art is effing gorgeous.

<3 that game.

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[eiei.livejournal.com]

I'm just a Death Note dork so I like all of them XD
my lil geniuses =3 (includes L and Matt too)

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[sarolynne.livejournal.com]

Are you kidding? Who didn't do that? Assassin/Rogue, OTP. ♥

You've gone and made me nostalgic.

[aprilechidna5.livejournal.com]

10. Eh, I tend to be doing F!S in the morning before school so sometimes I really even haven't got time to type my password in (yes, I know, my priorities=out of order XD;;;). And it takes ages for another page to load if I'm doing a reply. 'Sides, does it not being an RP account help somehow? A small amount of time it may be, but IMO it's still time wasted.

26. AGREED SO HARD.

33. I'm not even in MLP fandom _(yet) but that would potentially be hilariousawesome.

49. If it helps, I'm watching it to watch him lose because he's a total bastard~

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[drusillatsukino.livejournal.com]

I wasn't a big fan of the recurring storylines, but I think that Enterprise had the best characters of ANY of the other Trek shows. >.>

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[charliequinn.livejournal.com]

Me too! I really wish the other movies hadn't made a happy ending impossible. I always imagined Larry got his foot back and then they made out on a couch and lived happily (although PTSDidly) after.

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[eccehomoinsanus.livejournal.com]

I comment here with my RP journal because that's what I'm doing when I comment, duh. I'm usually reading f!s waiting for whoever I'm commenting with to comment back. Why waste time in a fast-moving RP thread by essentially logging out, making one comment in a comm, and then having to log in again to comment in-character? Find something else to bitch about mate.

Why yes, I'm commenting with my RP journal just to piss you off since I'm not logging at 7:28am. :)

Re: 10

[(Anonymous)]

♥

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[blackcatphobia.livejournal.com]

28. ...Are you my mam? :D

30. Gaius and Felix are as good as canon already. This isn't a secret.

44. I seriously don't understand how not knowing the accepted fandom term for something you were doing is that omg!terrible. Or whatever people mean by these kinds of secrets.

46. I love you.

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[(Anonymous)]

33. Haven't you ever heard of the Ponylands Catfight board? My Little Pony drama with a proud-to-be-a-bitch vibe.

A dedicated secrets board would be cool though.

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[zizou-kun.livejournal.com]

Trust me, you're not the only one :)

Jussi&Rico FTW~!

[axel-kun.livejournal.com]

66. I wanted them to have a happy ending too :(

45, 67

[(Anonymous)]

45: Why on earth would you be ashamed? I'm not sure if you're talking about Anthony Stewart Head or Rupert Giles, but both the actor and character are unbelievably hot. I'd do either of them in a heartbeat.

67: The plot will make sense if you read up on something called European colonialism.

[(Anonymous)]

37: Then make your own community, where only people who flutter and flail like retarded two-year-olds and you are welcome. It's not that hard.

46: You obviously haven't read much fanfic, then. Also, just so you know: there's no such fucking word as "eachother."

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[miss_prince.livejournal.com]

26. I'm late on this, but I totally agree. Apollo /= weepy uke. Like, at all. Honestly, he's a lot like Phoenix was, only somewhat more competent as a lawyer.

77

[briteskies.livejournal.com]

(Aww sad times for late comments D=)

BUT OMG YES! Enterprise is my absolute favourite. I'd go to cons WITH you so we can feel left out together =p I'd love to go as T'Pol some day. O-or Mirror Universe Hoshi! But I'm scared to because... yeah. I know exactly what you mean.

Haha. "Faith of the Heart" is one of my ringtones on my phone! ♥

[yui-hime.livejournal.com]

46) I know that by this point it's cliche, but "The Internet is for PORN". That's why.