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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Is there any situation you can think of in which people are entitled to someone else's love?

Before people start yelling about how nobody deserves anyone else's love in a relationship, what about parents loving children or children loving parents, provided they're at least decent to each other? What about a situation in which someone promised love and failed to deliver?

[sparrow_lately]

No.

You can be entitled to respect and decent treatment (just about everyone is!). You cannot be entitled to love.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with that, but so many people are offended and appalled when a parent doesn't love their children that there must be people who disagree with us.

[dethtoll]

If your parents don't love you, it means they've failed as parents.

[(Anonymous)]

Why, as long as they have a warm and welcoming environment for the child? They don't have to love the child to be friendly and nurturing.

Do you feel the child is entitled to their parents' love?

[(Anonymous)]

I do think children are entitled to their parents' love.

[ariakas]

Nope. Though if you're a parent who doesn't love your kids you might want to look into adoption.

There are situations were someone is definitely entitled to courtesy, decency, respect, and care though. As a parent you are legal obligated to provide this.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I agree with you.

[(Anonymous)]

Parents should love their children. If they're going to make(or adopt) a child then they should love it. And if they can't then they should hand the child over to someone who will.

[(Anonymous)]

About the parent and child thing specifically, I think it probably sucks for a kid if their parents or a parent doesn't love them. But as long as said parent doesn't hate or resent their kids, and the kid has other loving relationships, they'll probably turn out okay. Plenty of parents love their kids but manage to fuck them up by being bad parents or bad people or both.

[(Anonymous)]

idk. My father never loved me and that hurts. And idk if you can truly not love your child and still be a good parent.

[(Anonymous)]

Nobody is entitled to a romantic relationship, or romantic feelings being returned is what I'd say.

But parental love is a requirement for healthy development. To suggest that an expectation of a parent's love is an entitlement is, forgive me but, retarded. A child literally needs love to develop into healthy adult. That's like saying the expectation of food is entitlement.

[(Anonymous)]

Not necessarily. Adopted children turn out fine often without their biological parents' love.

Question for OP

[(Anonymous)]

I already replied saying kids aren't necessarily entitled to their parents' love. On the other hand, I don't know why anyone would have kids if they suspected they couldn't love them. And I'd also wonder why they didn't, at least after the first few months when the "oh god I would do anything for an uninterrupted night's sleep" thing maybe starts to ease up. Like, one of the reasons I'm not trying for kids is that I'm not sure I would love them, and that would suck for them and probably for me since I'd feel guilty knowing I was hurting them.

So since you seem to be interested in the mother-child bond thing specifically, why do you, OP, think women would have kids if they didn't love them? (Not that I don't think dads should get a free pass). Also postpartum depression can fuck with new moms hardcore so if this is a personal thing and you expected to love your kid and can't, I'm sorry and I hope you can get some help for that because it probably sucks for you.

Re: Question for OP

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, I keep copy pasting all over this thread because people are asking the same questions.

the specific example I had in mind was the scenario of a mother who doesn't love her child since one of my coworkers confessed to me that she's afraid she won't love her baby once it's born and she doesn't particularly love it now.

She is having the child because she wants a baby before she's too old - she's pushing 40 - because her parents are asking for grandchildren, and because her husband wants kids.

Re: Question for OP

[chardmonster]

On the other hand, I don't know why anyone would have kids if they suspected they couldn't love them.

because they were trying to adopt a puppy and the agency got confused and you can't just mail a kid back it's unseemly

Re: Question for OP

[(Anonymous)]

hi i'm not OP and I'm not like saying that parents should totally have kids they don't love or anything like that but this jumped out at me

On the other hand, I don't know why anyone would have kids if they suspected they couldn't love them.

and a few scenarios came to mind such as:

Because they live in a society where having children is expected and it never occurs to them that they shouldn't have children.

Because they live in a place where birth control is not readily accessible.

Because they did not consent.

like I'm not trying to make excuses for bad parents or say that anyone who doesn't love their children is a victim but these are real scenarios

[herpymcderp]

I'd like to say that being someone's child (or rather, being raised by someone) entitles them to parental love.

I wish this was the case, really. We all know that this isn't how the world works.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is that even if we agree that certain people in certain situations are entitled to the love of certain other people, this does not actually change how those other people feel and make them feel love. You can't force someone to love, only to give the appearance of loving.

I do agree that children need to feel loved and for their sake someone needs to take on a parental role and either love or do a good job of pretending to love a kid. I don't think you're always entitled to a parent's love into adulthood, however. If your kid turns out to be a serial killer who makes lampshades out of human skin, I wouldn't judge you for loving your child a little less.

[(Anonymous)]

Children are entitled to a parent's love. Of course, sometimes people confuse love for "be a spineless doormat." It doesn't mean that. You can love someone and not bear to be around them, whether due to abuse or self-destructive behavior (I'm going more toward adult territory here, but I'm sure it can apply to the rare/occasional kid case).

[(Anonymous)]

Children are entitled to their parents' love in the sense that, yeah, their parents fucking suck if they don't love them. You unconditionally love your kids. If you can't do that, go fuck yourself, no exceptions.

I think generally speaking, close family should love each other and forgive shit, unless there is serious toxic abuse going on.

No one is entitled to romantic love.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the way I'd put it is that children are entitled to feel loved by their parents. It doesn't have to be any particular parent, and it can be faked. So if you feel you don't love your children then either fake it so they believe it or put them up for adoption.

[(Anonymous)]

Deserve love, yes, entitled to it, no. "Entitled" implies other people have a responsibility to make this happen. "Deserve" just implies that in a perfect world, you would get this, but in reality, it might not happen.

[(Anonymous)]

I firmly believe the children are entitled to parents' love, and vice versa.

In most cases, you do love them, regardless. Whether or not you like them is a totally different story...

[dancingmouse]

Romantic love? No.

Parental love is the only kind of love I feel everyone's entitled too. Even if it's not from the biological parent.