[ SECRET POST #3425 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3425 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Final Fantasy VII/Super Smash Bros]


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03.
[The Girls Next Door, Bridget Marquardt, Holly Madison, Kendra Wilkinson]


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04.
[Pokémon Sun and Moon]


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05.
[Love and Lies]


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06.
[Aoishiro]


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08.
[The Hunger Games]


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09. [SPOILERS for Houdini and Doyle]




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10. [SPOILERS for Pokemon SM]




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11. [SPOILERS for The Witcher/Dragon Age]




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12. [SPOILERS for Cupid]
[WARNING for rape, incest]




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13. [WARNING for discussion of rape]


["Blurred Lines", Robin Thicke]





























Notes:

Really early because I've got stuff to do, sorry about that.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I like this song and video, too.

I miss the days when we could enjoy mischievous eroticism in entertainment without being shamed by a Puritanical mob. Eroticism depends to a great degree on a sense of play, of ambiguity, of (yes!) danger... basically all the things we're told are so wrong nowadays. It's depressing.

[(Anonymous)]

If you can't find something erotic without ambiguous consent, there is something seriously wrong with you.

[(Anonymous)]

If you judge other women for their kinks, there is something seriously wrong with you.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope, sorry. Some kinks need to be fucking shamed.

[(Anonymous)]

Stop playing thought police. People are going to enjoy their kinks no matter how many hissy fits you throw.

[kallanda_lee]

Now I know you're trolling.

[(Anonymous)]

Um no, sorry. I will judge people for their disgusting "kinks" all day long. There's some sick asshole in my current fandom who gets off on extremely underage non-con. She writes fics where a character as old as 45 is raping a 6/7 year old child and she GETS OFF ON THAT.

That makes you a sick fuck, I don't care who you are. That's not a fucking "kink", that's a pedophile making excuses for themselves by screaming, "Don't kinkshame me!!1!" Fuck that.

[(Anonymous)]

+1. Holy shit that's skeevy.

[kallanda_lee]

Only I never interpreted it as dubious consent, but as provoking infidelity (until people started wanking about it). and people are allowed to find that gross, too, but multiple interpretations of texts are a thing.

[(Anonymous)]

There's nothing to even suggest infidelity in the lyrics, though. It's all "I know you want it no matter what you say" bullshit.

[kallanda_lee]

This entire thing:

Ok, now he was close
Tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal
Baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
You don't need no papers
That man is not your maker

Is basically him trying to get her away from another guy to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Mte. I don't see anything rapey about it, but encouraging cheating? Yes.

[(Anonymous)]

Please kill yourself.

[kallanda_lee]

Exactly. And there's even a paragraph later on that has "the way you grab me", o yeah, she's not an unwilling bystander.

To me it was always a song about a woman who is attracted to him, but is holding off cause she's involved with someone else, and he's encouraging her to cheat. But ymmv.

[(Anonymous)]

You are not unique or interesting for calling modern cultural mores "Puritanical".

And if someone thinks things are dubious, consensually, that doesn't make them Puritanical, either.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not trying to be unique or interesting. Puritanical is the only apt word for the sex negativity we're seeing right now.

[(Anonymous)]

Negativity toward the eroticism of sexual assault is not sex negativity, fucking Christ.

[(Anonymous)]

IT'S A FUCKING SONG.

You know who goes crazy over evil songs and books and movies? PURITANS.

[(Anonymous)]

"I miss the days when rape survivors knew how to keep their mouths shut and not harsh my boner!"

[(Anonymous)]

Everyone trots out the ones who are against the song but then they work to silence the ones who say that the song isn't a prbblem.

[(Anonymous)]

Because if it's not a problem to you, then you aren't being hurt by it. So you can shut up anytime.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm going to let you in on a little secret: you totally can enjoy all the entertainment you want, because people who think like you are still in the majority. This "shaming by the Puritanical mob" you refer to mostly consists of a handful of teenagers/twenty-somethings on tumblr, who make a statistically insignificant amount of the mainstream media you enjoy.

If you can move past the fact that there is a teensy bit of criticism (that is easily tuned out or avoided altogether) concerning what you consume, then you're gold. But if you're going to insist upon treating these tiny, trivial voices of opposition as if a big bad SJW death squad is going to personally come to your house and threaten you until you delete all objectionable media off your devices, you end up sounding like those milita nuts who think they need to stockpile semiautomatics and grenade launchers because "Obama gonna take away mah gunz!"


"Eroticism depends to a great degree on a sense of play, of ambiguity, of (yes!) danger."

This might be true for you, in which case don't sweat it because you will still find play of people willing to engage in consensual "play". But your mistake is believing that what you find erotic is what everyone else finds erotic, too. I'm not sure why you'd think that, but it's not accurate.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for the last part. Of course people shouldn't be shamed for kinks, or for liking dumb pop songs, but I also hate the idea that eroticism MUST involve dubious consent, ambiguity, danger, etc. FOR ALL PEOPLE. I mean, as a woman who is really not into the whole "dangerous bad boy" thing, or rapey stuff, or having to be "playfully" submissive, some of the stuff about how you CAN'T have sex or eroticism without that stuff or the stuff about how women who aren't into that are "puritanical" feels just as shamey to me.

[(Anonymous)]

But if you're going to insist upon treating these tiny, trivial voices of opposition as if a big bad SJW death squad is going to personally come to your house and threaten you until you delete all objectionable media off your devices, you end up sounding like those milita nuts who think they need to stockpile semiautomatics and grenade launchers because "Obama gonna take away mah gunz!"

You got all that from "it's depressing." Really?

[(Anonymous)]

Nope, because I read the first half of the comment. Unlike you, I guess.

"I miss the days when we could enjoy mischievous eroticism in entertainment without being shamed by a Puritanical mob."

Actually come to think of it, I may have fallen for a troll, because all the head shaking and tutting about how good the "good old days" were before the PC crowd ruined everything is pretty typical troll fodder. But then again, there are people who genuinely think this way, so... /shrug