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⌈ Secret Post #3800 ⌋

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[Killing Stalking]

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[The 100, Echo and Bellamy]

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[Anne (the new remake of L.M. Montgomery's Anne of Green Gables)]

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[Pokémon ORAS]

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[Homestuck]

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Misunderstanding, troll logic, etc.

Can be online or offline or a mixture of both.

This one was partly my fault. One time someone on a rant community posted about someone's service dog. I asked whether the dog had any sort of ID to help people know it really was a service dog.

People went APESHIT on me. Admittedly I could have put it better - I was thinking of the blankets those dogs sometimes have, or tags on their collar. However, according to the comments what I meant was that people with disabilities should wander around with tags on them. No. Not at all what I meant. However, trying to explain that made it worse, so I gave up.

Honestly, every time I've seen someone talk about service animals they tend to fly off the hinges really easily. I'm sure you meant it in a polite way, but they tend to overreact. I've seen multiple people have a fit because an average joe doesn't understand that service animals are not to be pet or interacted with (a lot of people see a cute animal and think "Aww, I want to talk to him and pat him on the head!" without stopping and realizing that the animal is "on duty").

There are many people who try to pass off normal pets as service animals just to get them to be permitted into places. I do not mean emotional support animals, I mean regular pets with no training, poor behavior issues, etc. There is a lady who goes into our local Walmart with her mangy-looking dog (chihuahua-mix, it does not look healthy or like it's ever had a bath), she always tells people it's a service dog, but the entire time they're in the store, it will bark and growl at people, nonstop. The store cannot do a thing about it because of her claim, even though it is not wearing any kind of identification.

What you said was reasonable. I myself would be suspicious of a "service animal" if it did not have identification (even if it's easy to get vests/collars on eBay and just pass them off). As soon as I see a dog in a vest, being very attentive to its owner, I will assume it is a service dog and to leave them be unless the owner requests my help.

Actually the store could do something - legally you are allowed to ask service dogs to leave if they are being disruptive. That is something people with actual service animals know, and why they have socialization training.

Also you aren't allowed to ask "what is your disability" or "what do you need a service dog for" but you CAN ask "what task is your dog trained to perform?"

AYRT - Thanks! Yeah, it's an admittedly touchy issue and I probably should've stayed out of it.

The community also had a lot of social justice warriors at the time - it was pretty easy to walk into an argument. It's a bit better now, new mods eventually laid out some ground rules but it's also quieter, and I think the people who were there mostly to start fights left.

I think they flew off about the ID thing because it's such a popular scam that preys on the disabled community?

You basically said "Why didn't you tell grandma to let the guy over the phone access her computer to fix Windows?" when you MEANT that grandma had called actual tech support at her volunteer position and just didn't want to let the IT personnel do it themselves.

But everyone heard the "Hello, I am calling from the Windows company, there are many viruses on your Windows computer. Please give me your credit card number." scam.

A friend once accused me of Islamophobia because he posted a meme about how Imperialism caused domestic abuse in the Middle East. I asked how and he told me I clearly thought all Muslims are domestic abusers and white people have nothing to do with it.

We're not friends anymore.

you say Muslims and white people like those two groups are mutually exclusive.

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An argument about whether or not DC films by WB can count towards your opinion of DC in general.

It was a long time ago but I always remember one time my friend in highschool got angry with me and a few of our friends (but for some reason only wrote me an angry e-mail) because she thought we made plans without her and we didn't.

Just experiencing something that was a literal misunderstanding made me feel like people should talk to each other before getting angry, but I've unfortunately had so many experiences where friends decided to get angry before they spoke to me about it.

Ugh, I always hated that. :/

And yeah, why not just talk to people before getting upset?

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One time, a friend of mine was especially sensitive towards spoilers to (what was in my mind) an unnecessarily sensitive degree. So I told her an **extremely** exaggerated and obviously fake spoiler for something she was into, and she got pissed. We argued about it for days.

I've had over sensitive spoiler friends, like I get not wanting to be spoiled since there are certain things I want to avoid spoilers on too, but I've had friends who will freak if I even say the name of a series they haven't gotten to watch yet.

Not really an argument, but there was an incident in my high school where a kid brought a gun. We were all told before dismissal, but not told who it was. I had a feeling I knew who it was, and was really bothered by it. I began to tell my teacher, saying "I think I know who it was-" and she cut me off very sharply by saying "don't repeat it, that's how rumors start!"

I was going to finish my sentence with "...and I'm freaked out about that", but whatever.

I've already talked about the time twenty people left or were banned because of an argument over whether Lolita was "pedo porn." I've never been caught up in anything else that bad, though . . .

Oh, I remember a guy who claimed his friend was an intersex porn star. The doctors sealed her vagina shut at birth, so her periods were slowly killing her, but she couldn't have an operation because she had hemophilia. I got in a lot of hot water for telling him I didn't believe him. (I later made it up to him by recommending a medication that prevents periods.)

I have so many questions about that second thing I don't even know where to begin.

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some guy on youtube went nuts on me because I said nobody outside of a TV commercial ever calls their sister "sis".

I wouldn't go nuts on you and it's ridiculous that he did, but my oldest brother calls me sis, at least over text.

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I've heard it other places, but now that you mention it, I'm not sure how often I've heard it IRL. I don't think it's as common as TV would suggest.

Either way, though, what a weird thing to get upset about.

Re: Arguments that spun out of control

greghousesgf - 2017-05-31 00:26 (UTC) - Expand

Lots of them. Probably the weirdest one was when someone commented that she was worried she'd accidentally friend-zoned a guy. I commented that you can't accidentally friend-zone someone and explained that the whole idea is women actively choosing to string along a guy in love with her just to be cruel.

And someone flipped the fuck out and ranted and ranted that I was saying women should be obligated to have sex with guys that like them or they're cruel.

...But that's not what friend-zoning is.

It's not deliberately stringing a guy along. It's when a guy secretly has the hots for a girl and is trying to win her over, but she thinks they're just really great friends and doesn't think of him romantically at all. Hence the cliche of her saying things like "oh I'm so glad I have you around to talk to about my shitty boyfriend, you're such a great friend!"

I mean, kind of a stupid concept to begin with, but it the term only implies maliciousness when used in the context of shitty Nice Guys.

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That person shouldn't have flipped out at you, that was a massive overreaction on their part.

However, that's not what friend-zoning is. Friend-zoning is when one person wants to have sex with another person, but person B doesn't feel that way about person A and just wants to be friends. So in a sense, the girl you replied to was probably right that she'd "friend-zoned" a guy. Her misconception was in believing in the idea of "friend-zoning" as an idea with any real validity.

In reality, "She friend-zoned me" is basically just saying, "She doesn't want to have sex with me and I feel distraught and resentful about it." It's a way of talking about someone not giving you something that belongs to them but which you want, as though they actually did something against you.

I was having lunch with a friend. It was just after the Batman movie theater shooting, and some news thing came on the tv in the diner about Christian Bale dressing up in his Batman costume to visit the survivors of the shooting in the hospital. I commented that that was nice of him to do that and for some reason my friend got really mad about it and INSISTED that it wasn't nice at all and he was only doing it to look like a nice person. I have no idea why, but she was really, really determined to believe that there could not possibly be any altruistic motive, only a self-aggrandizing selfish one. She was getting really steamed so I eventually changed the subject. I have no idea whatsoever why this was such A Thing for her. I don't know if she hates Batman, or hates Christian Bale, or hates celebrities in general, or what. It was really bizarre.

Lol of all the things to get worked up over.

On my LJ, I posted a link to a blog post by a friend of mine. Some dude who makes it a habit to hate-stalk said friend (long story; said friend is a semi-celeb writer guy) commented in an unfriendly fashion.

It turned into an 800-comment pinata bashing of that dude. Who refused to stop posting, kept bringing up people and issues that had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation at hand, and apparently thought he was winning some kind of point. My friend was never even involved in the conversation.

My poor inbox.

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