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⌈ Secret Post #3805 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I just don't get the point of sharing it though, it's the equivalent of sharing your private fantasies or a diary, and neither of those things is stuff that everyone needs to see.

Maybe it's because I grew up when the internet wasn't so public but I really feel like not everything needs to be shared with everyone. Yeah, I can and do ignore self insert fic, but I also just don't know why anyone would want to share it or what good it does other people in seeing it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah but why do you care if someone does want to share it though

[(Anonymous)]

The amount I care is really minimal and none of this answers my question of why anyone needs or wants to share it.

Like f!s may have a positive attitude about it but the fact is sharing self insert does open you up to getting shit from people who hate it, so if I wrote that type of fic I'd be more inclined to keep it private or only share with friends who showed interest.

[(Anonymous)]

The amount I care is really minimal and none of this answers my question of why anyone needs or wants to share it.

I don't know myself but it seems relatively minor in the massive list of things that other people like that I don't

[(Anonymous)]

It's more like, I don't get the expectation that others are actually going to read your self-insert Mary Sue fic, so it's the most annoying when it's posted all over the fucking place begging for reviews.

I agree that they are perfectly fantastic to write, they can be fun fantasies and anything that gets you to sit down and write is constructive. If you post it, cool, good for you. Just don't expect to get a following, and it's a little weird to advertise it everywhere.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I think people begging others to read it takes me back to my "why" question (and I was assuming this could be part of it when someone posts something in public, because you don't post something for the whole internet to read if you DON'T want someone to read it.)

If you want to write it, cool, but not everything we write has to be seen by other people nor are other people always going to get enjoyment out of it. I can understand maybe showing self insert to a friend if they seemed interested and/or you ask them to look at it just to critique your writing. Otherwise don't expect people to be into it.

[(Anonymous)]

Not everyone feels the way you do? For a lot of people, it's just a story, or maybe they don't mind sharing this one private thing about themselves. They're still being selective about what they share, it's just that they select different things than you do.

I'm trying not to be a jerk here, but this really is not that difficult to grasp unless you come from a planet where everyone has the same opinion about everything, all the time.

[(Anonymous)]

I understand some people are a little more open but it still comes off as a bit strange to me just because of the type of response self insert fics typically get (not positive.)

It's also not necessarily a good thing when people don't realize some thoughts should be private. Especially on the internet where people can very easily get targeted for very minor things. People tend to forget this.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, okay.

1. Not everyone is aware that there's so much strong negative feelings about self insert fics. Young people, people who are new to the whole writing thing, etc.

2. Even if they knew, not everyone's discouraged by the possibility of a negative reaction to what they create. This is absolutely a good thing, because without it, we'd never have any good art.

3. It's just fanfic, anon. We're not talking about people who like telling strangers at the grocery store about their bleeding hemorrhoids or PIN numbers or state secrets. Just... fanfic. We're better off coming down hard on any asshole who targets someone just for writing a fanfic they don't like rather than trying to warn everyone to ooh, better censor your perfectly harmless fanfic in case you make a toxic internet troll mad!

[(Anonymous)]

I rarely see fandom come down that hard on assholes though. Most often more what happens is that young people get doxxed and bullied into leaving, and for anyone dealing with mental illness it is not easy for them to get over.

It is not bad advice to tell young people to limit what they share with others on the internet. The internet is PUBLIC TO EVERYONE and that can open you up to a lot of shit. It's not a bad thing to tell people that maybe sometimes you should put your rant under a friends lock or that maybe your fic should be in a private journal. Being private about things on the internet has honestly saved me from a lot of drama over the years, I can't imagine how I would have reacted as a teen if I had gotten bullied the way some teens deal with today.

If they can handle the criticism, then great, but I don't think it's bad to just suggest to people there are other options rather then sharing it.

[diet_poison]

Who is the police of which thoughts should be private, though? It sounds really presumptuous for you to say it like that. That's someone else's personal choice, not yours.

[(Anonymous)]

I never talked about forcing anyone to do anything, I was mainly asking what the point of sharing it is and trying to understand why it's a bad thing to suggest some things be private.

Not force, but suggest. Particularly for anyone who might not be aware of the backlash they could receive.

[sarillia]

Why is this something that should be private? Is this another one of those things where I'm not reading the arguments correctly because I forget that to some people fanfic=porn?

What is so horribly personal about a story where the main character is a thinly veiled version of the writer that it's a matter of--actually I'm not sure what you're saying it's a matter of. Safety? Decency?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't write self-insert fics, but I'm boggling at the idea that things should be kept private because they don't always get a positive reaction.

If that was the case, I'd have to keep my college major private in my home town (because that's not what respectable young women study), keep my friends hidden somewhere, and not share my opinions about anything, whether irl or online.

I like talking, so I guess I'll keep doing that even if it's not always going to get a positive reaction.

[(Anonymous)]

But then by that token they can't get upset when people criticize it because they made that choice to put it out there for everyone to see.

[(Anonymous)]

But there are other people out there who are reading and liking those stories. It "does them good" to have something they enjoy reading.

And the authors post the stories for the same reason than any other writer does: because they want to share the story with someone else, and want to be a part of the community.

[(Anonymous)]

If people enjoy it, that's great! That just hasn't been my experience but if there are people out there who genuinely get a lot of reading them then I have no issue with it.

[(Anonymous)]

There are plenty of self-insert fics that get a lot of kudos, so clearly there is an audience for them.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Such fics are bizarrely popular in some of my fandoms, to the point that it makes it difficult to browse for other types of fic. I'd rather drink a glass of my own spit than read Canon Character x OC fic, but I must say that I don't understand your angle here where you guess it's fine if people like it but you just find it so hard to believe that anyone actually does. The fact that self-inserts are so pervasive as to be an annoyance shows that plenty of people do in fact like them.

The fact of the matter is that sharing any kind of fanwork opens you up to criticism from people who hate it for whatever reason. People shouldn't stop posting and advertising their niche fic just because you think no one cares and you think they need to be protected from themselves. If that were the case, no one would write or post fic about anything besides the most popular ships.

[(Anonymous)]

There are some people deranged enough to think there are people who would actually ship them with fictional characters and draw fanart of them. That, or that have no sense of shame to know they are being obnoxious.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh right these people are being deranged... and not the people who write detailed fic of characters they hate being brutally tortured.

Just saying...it seems a bit weird that in all of fanfic you seem to believe that its self insert writers who are deranged. Apparently you can write whatever fucked up shit you want but the worst thing a person can do is make up their own character. Oh what funny priorities you have.

[(Anonymous)]

Right? Same here. I don't get why people want to share their fap fantasies.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

All porn fic and shipping is fap fantasy so shouldn't it all be kept ***private*** instead of shared?

[(Anonymous)]

Because some people actually enjoy reading self-insert, and not everyone is so self conscious that they care overly much that people think it's lame. The same reasons people post any other type of fic.