[ SECRET POST #3853 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3853 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That was a whole lotta words to say, I disagree.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it might be a good idea to explain why I disagree, rather than letting the thread be 10 people saying SJWs are crazy and 1 person saying that SJWs might not be entirely insane and evil

[(Anonymous)]

Because most people are finally catching on to the fact SJWs are full of it, and they're tired of their locusts with torches act, swarming and burning down everything in their wakes.

And yet there are still a few people, like yourself, apparently, who are still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[(Anonymous)]

Ok

[(Anonymous)]

It always seems that the people who crow about "SJWs" want these very specific parameters for how diversity should happen.

"It's only okay when it calls for it, when there's a reason", like diverse people have a reason to exist IRL.

The people you think are reasonable honestly move too slow. They think they're logical and 'liberal' but they enjoy the status quo too much to want it changed for whatever reason.

[(Anonymous)]

I think "those people" are expecting a certain level of realism in media. Like the BBC show that takes place in the remote and sparsely populated Shetland Islands with a cast of 10 people, and like 4 of them are various different races and nationalities. Come the fuck on, that's just pandering.

[(Anonymous)]

Does it make the show worse in quality, or hurt anyone?

I thought everyone in the show was pretty good FWIW

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's a great show. I just couldn't stop wondering how all those various minorities ended up in the middle of nowhere above Scotland.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, the 'status quo' allows everyone to enjoy fandom without getting harrassed. The sad fact is that any fandom with PoCs or sexual minority becomes toxic, period. It happened with Homestuck, it happenes with Steven Universe, there's signs that it's happening with the Black Panther movie, and it will happen here too. With white characters, everyone can cosplay, squee, write fic, etc., without being 'problematic,' but with non-white protagonists, the majority of your viewership is going to be locked out of fandom.

[ninety6tears]

I agree with the OP that pissed-off reactions under the performative guise of social justice are inevitable, but you seem like you're just mad that there's still a discussion about these issues at all because not everyone is satisfied to cast the worst of tumblr as the scapegoat for anyone discussing representation at all. I think the discussion is almost killed by irrational standards and double standards and teenagers with shipping bias, but that doesn't mean I won't give ANYONE the benefit of the doubt.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

arent SJWs by definition crazy though? this is like arguing the alt-right aren't white nationalist. if they weren't white nationalist, they wouldn't be alt-right, they'd be 'conservatives.'

unless you're taking SJW to mean everybody with an opinion on social justice, no matter how extreme?

[(Anonymous)]

Sure. Please replace with "People that the Internet dismisses as SJWs might not be entirely insane and evil". I don't think the term is used in a very precise way at all.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

i agree the term is not used in a very precise way at all. but if OP is using the term SJW to specifically mean the very extreme end of the spectrum people then that argument has no relevance still.

is this secret true of some extreme people, of course it is. is it not true of many less extreme people who get dismissed as SJWs, of course it is too. it depends on what OP means by SJW which is unclear but you auto assume it means anyone with an opinion and are ranting about it as if that must be what OP meant, is what i'm saying

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, the secret as written doesn't make any distinction between "the crazy people who are SJWs" and "the reasonable people who want diversity". The secret as written is about how people who want diversity are constantly moving the goalposts and are never satisfied and should be ignored. OP is also being very unspecific themselves in their use of the term, is what I'm saying.

And then when you use the term in that sweeping way, regardless of what you means, it feeds into a broader discourse about how arguing for diversity makes you crazy.

[(Anonymous)]

Alt-Right has a much more varied meaning than white nationalist. Some are, sure. But most people who use the term mean it to mean not card carrying Republicans, the sort who are trying to reform the party from within.

SJWs are by definition nuts.

[(Anonymous)]

I would just like to point out, for the record, that the person who is promulgating the idea that SJWs are all crazy is also defending the reasonableness of the alt-right

Just pointing that out for the record

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Anyone who is not an idiot or a SJW knows that SJW and social activists are definitely not the same and that SJW are all nuts and incredibly harmful, that's why they are labeled SJW.

But keep trying, maybe one day you'll get it.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure that's not the same person.

[(Anonymous)]

....wow.

[(Anonymous)]

nah white nationalism is always a part of the alt right though they may be things other than that. its one of the essential things that separates them out as 'alt' instead of just 'far' right. people use the term wrong sure but it has been defined

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right

[(Anonymous)]

And the people who defined it aren't the people who use it. Their agenda is far from pure.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

DA

There's being respectful of differences and there is "everything you say or do is racist / ableist / transphobic / homo-bi-ace-phobic / misogynist / sexist / ageist / something-phobic" being thrown out to derail any further discussion because the person accused has to defend themselves against that and the discussion never gets back to the root of the matter. The SJW then sits back and revels in how "progressive" they are when they didn't solve anything.

The absolute worst SJWs only act behind a computer screen and never do anything substantial for their cause offline. Hey, I'm just generalizing like they generalize. They expect everybody else to do their dirty work instead. Even disabled activists dependent on total care still find a way to get out and do shit. When was the last time anyone saw these militant SJWs do that? The absolute most they do is disrupt rallies and turn into fodder for cringe compilation videos later.

I think OP is tired of seeing everything I show does never be good enough to satisfy the 'craycray' SJWs.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not going to get into this stupid argument about how everyone who wants diversity is a hypocrite who doesn't get out and demonstrate, I will just say that OP is completely unspecific about how they're using the term SJW.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's fairly obvious they're talking about the unreasonable ones who won't stop complaining no matter how well written or diverse something is. They have no concept that nothing is perfect and that creators owe them zilch.

SA: Typo correction: everything a^ show does

[(Anonymous)]

Damn it, I'm not wide awake enough for this crap.