[ SECRET POST #4117 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4117 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i64.tinypic.com/35ldcec.png

[(Anonymous)]

Troll

[(Anonymous)]

And I wish people would realize that just because something is culturally relevant for one place doesn't mean it's NOT culturally relevant to another.

Also they were really bad at cooking any sort of pies.

[(Anonymous)]

And I wish people would realize that just because something is culturally relevant for one place doesn't mean it's NOT culturally relevant to another.

Exactly. Bring culturally relevant isn't a mutually exclusive thing where something can only be relevant to one culture at a time.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank god there isn't a common quote about something being as American as apple pie.

Also, early british pies were shit. You should not be proud of those monstrosities.

[ailurophile6]

Yeah, talk about world blindness.....

[(Anonymous)]

Weren’t early pie crusts basically just a marginally-edible container to keep whatever was being cooked from drying out?

[(Anonymous)]

"We did it first" isn't the basis of what makes something iconic.

Microsoft made mp3 players before Apple did.

[(Anonymous)]

No but having a food as an intrinsic part of your day to day life makes it part of the fabric of our culture.

It's only an icon inside America. To Europe, who have eaten it all their lives and have a long history of it - it's a kind of 'oh yeah Americans like apple pie too' kind of thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Assuming this isn't a troll, it's not that Americans don't realize they didn't invent apple pie, it's just that if you're doing a show about American pies, apple pie is one of the quintessential pies in American culture.

Kind of like how the British didn't invent tea, but it's considered a quintessential part of British culture.

[(Anonymous)]

/sips tea

[(Anonymous)]

go make a curry about it

[(Anonymous)]

Actually... it's rather world blindness to not recognize that apple pie did become an American staple, just as others had mentioned, as tea and curry became British staples.

And, let's face it, apple pie is a helluva less appropriative than curry or tea is.

[philstar22]

Agreed with what everyone else has said. Also, just, they didn't make Americna pies at all. Even a regular fruit pie or a key-lime pie or a citrus merangue pie would have been better than the crap they put out.

[greghousesgf]

singing bye bye American pie troll....

[(Anonymous)]

All those centuries of experience and they still couldn't make a pie right.

Confess, OP...

[(Anonymous)]

Was this a troll secret for one of the most innocuous fandoms on FS or what?

[(Anonymous)]

Ok i was the anon who made the comment "Like just make a fucking apple pie jfc" on the previous gbbo secret and troll secret or no, i would've taken any kind of fruit pie, or pecan pie, or pumpkin pie, or just some kind of pie with an actual top crust on it.

And yes, apple pies are quintessentially american even if british people eat them too. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. And it's kind of ridiculous for a british person to be complaining about food appropriation or what have you when britain took their only decent cuisine from Asia.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. Americans are a pretty much hick bunch.

Not once did I say it wasn't an American cultural icon in America. My point was when it has its own cultural niche in Britain why would a BRITISH show made firstly for BRITS think of it as American? It's a pretty big staple food over here.

Yeesh what a bunch of morons.

[(Anonymous)]

Origin of tea in China: 2737 BC
Foundation of England: 927 AD
Arrival of tea in the British isles: 1600s AD

To rephrase your own secret for you:

Do they genuinely not realize that tea was drunk across Asia for millennia before their country even existed? It's a staple drink in China and elsewhere across Asia, so why the hell would anyone see tea as British?

I don't see any reason to be so het up about it.

[(Anonymous)]

It's often the first pie Americans associate with America (guess what type of pie they are talking about in the movie American Pie). And since it was an American pie challenge, I would have assumed they would look up what pies are associated with America. Apple pie would have been at the top of the list. I was surprised there wasn't one, but whatever. However, I think the reason no one did an apple pie is not because they didn't know the association, but rather that a bunch of contestants had done some variation of an apple tarte tatin or tart a couple weeks earlier. The earlier challenge is probably why there weren't any fruit pies either.

I think a lot of Americans latched on to that particular thing because apple pie is iconic for us. And the reason people were so hung up on the episode probably had more to do with the way they talked about American pies than anything else.

[(Anonymous)]

kids, kids. surely we all realise that the reason none of the contestants made apple pie was:

1) the showstopper challenge was for *lidless* American pies, which apple pie isn't
2) no one wanted to risk making the same pie as their competition

this argument over whether or not any british person would consider apple pie american is ridiculous. most everyone in the uk knows the saying "as american as apple pie." settle down.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry I started this ridiculous wank and ignited the ire of OP due to a flippant comment I made on a secret last week. Obviously the specific pie in question holds a special place in OP's heart and had I known that OP would defend his position so vigorously so as to miss the point of the original comment I would've chosen a different pie to be flippant about.

Again, apologies.

[(Anonymous)]

. . . Well, I want some apple pie now. I think I'm gonna go buy some.

[(Anonymous)]

ITT: Brits being huge asshole cockwombles to Americans because they can't get their heads out of their asses and like to sling xenophobia when they're just as xenophobic.

Yes, to Brits the Apple Pie is as British as crumpets and double-decker buses. It has always been considered a staple of American culture as well which the episode touched on.

That doesn't mean that a person can't be disappointed that an "American" Apple Pie was largely ignored as an option.

Peace out, fuckers.