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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-01 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #4320 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4320 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Gerard Way (formerly of My Chemical Romance) - "Baby You're a Haunted House"]



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[The Good Place]


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[The Haunting of Hill House]






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(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Snape was a bullied kid whose one friend began to make nice with his bully after a time, and he was vulnerable to a bad crowd (like real life kids are) who offered him acceptance. Of course he fell in with him. That's how real-life gangs get people. They seek out the vulnerable. They offer them what they want--a crowd that seems to Get Them. And then when you're neck deep, you don't have a way to stop, and even push away your friends in the process.

That doesn't mean JKR handled it well, mind you, or that it excuses the way he became, but like. There's real-life psychology behind this, and I'm tired of fandom only acknowledging this stuff when it's their precious boy, but this explanation (and yes, explanation, not excuse) is just bunk if they hate the character.

(I do wish we'd gotten to see James actually feel sorry for being part of the Snape bullying at least.)

(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this as an explanation of Snape's character. He's a really good character with a lot of complexity!

It's also frustrating because the reality is that people do use that complexity as an excuse for his shittiness.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
James was a bit busy being dead because Snape's new bff murdered him. Somehow I don't think he was sorry? He probably thought he was right to have always believed Snape was evil.

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
YES!

I also have to admit that I hate the "He'd never have called Lily a Mudblood if he didn't believe it", completely ignoring that a LOT of abused kids are adept at sussing out and hitting others in their most vulnerable spots. Maybe he really bought into the Pureblood Superiority, but I don't think we really see evidence of that. We do know he saw the conflict between Lily and Petunia, making it the most obvious way to lash out at her. He was a horrible person, but the reductionist arguments when it's one of the more believable representations of abuse in canon annoys me.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-11-01 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this completely, even though I really dislike Snape. He's complicated, though. He went through some terrible things, made some terrible choices, and had to live with it. Doesn't excuse how he treats Harry, much less how he treats Hermione, Neville, or the other Gryffindors. He's a teacher bullying students, and there is no excuse for that. But he's still complicated.

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, all of that is true, and he's still an abusive asshole on top of it because he's a complex character.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It has the same depth and character psychology as the Ramones song "Today Your Love, Tomorrow The World"

(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. Morever,wasn't his father a violent moldu ? And yes, it's an explanation not a justification but I wish people didn't oversimplify what happened by saying that he turned towards the death-eaters because he was rejected by the girl he liked.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't give a damn about Snape one way or the other, but this kind of black-and-white thinking is so tedious and really kind of pathetic.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
People who call Snape an incel are just throwing words around to sound 'woke' without bothering to look up what it means.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
What? How is it wrong

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Hate away hater.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
sa

Guess there should be a comma in there, but meh. My point still stands. Hate Snape all you want. Can't make me stop loving him.

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-01 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh good, the Poor Argument Skills Snape Stan has arrived.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
The oh everyone at school was sooooo mean to me that I have to project my feelings of inadequacy onto a fictional character wrote the secret so let the Stans have their say too.

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
People are complicated. Sometimes characters are too.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2018-11-02 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
A-fucking-men. Not to mention she says Draco is irredeemable, which, in the face of all the shit Snape's done... how?

I will always be salty about Snape. Always.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
When did she say Draco was irredeemable? I specifically remember her saying he WAS redeemable. Not in those words, but she said he was much better as an adult and got along with Harry now.

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, pity poor Snape, who never actually renounced the principles that led him to become a proponent of ethnic cleansing and only fought on the right side because his leader killed that one girl he liked. Truly, it's good to punch Nazis, except for our woobie Friendzone McGee.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. That is true as fuck.

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 10:22 am (UTC)(link)
This opinion about Snape is pure fanon, you should be ashamed to ignore canon so much lmao

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay... this is creepy. Someone took my exact words on an old post and turned it into a secret. Like, why?

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don’t know what’s sadder: the Snapefen unironic “Behind Blue Eyes” version of Snape, or depressing “dedicated my life to avenging my fake girlfriend that I got killed through my own poor life choices” actual canon Snape.