[ SECRET POST #4477 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4477 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[American Gods, season two]


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[James Gunn]


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(Riverdale)


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[Gotham, Penguin/Riddler]


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[one direction]















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 30 secrets from Secret Submission Post #641.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

03. https://i.imgur.com/auKKEcK.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I wish this had a warning

[(Anonymous)]

Spotted the tumblr anti

[(Anonymous)]

Warning: Eye blinding neon green background?

Not sure what else needs warning for.

[(Anonymous)]

Congratulations, you just won the internet's coveted Hard Sigh award of the day!

[(Anonymous)]

I wish you had a warning.

[(Anonymous)]

They literally are a pedophile in the sense of being sexually attracted to children or representations of children, sorry. You can argue that it's not morally harmful or bad to be a pedophile in that way, for various reasons, but on the basic point of "is or is not a pedophile", I don't think there's really a lot of grey area or wiggle room here.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone that has no idea what the fuck is going on here but gets her hackles up when people start slinging around "pedophile"-- what ship are we talking about here? How old are the characters in question?

[(Anonymous)]

Nah there is 100% a difference between being attracted to a real living breathing child, and a drawing of a fictional child. I don't know what the actual ship in question is?? But this person'd only be a pedophile if they were a danger to real life children, not fictional ones.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay,even setting aside "fiction is not really", how old are the characters, does he ship them when they're older (because that's a common anti calling card, that even if you age them up you're still a pedo because they *were* underage, even if underage means a day shy of 18), is it even sexual at all, and most importantly, when did shipping something come to mean you automatically are personally sexually attracted to the characters involved???

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, yes, there's a LOT of grey area when it comes to fiction.

[(Anonymous)]

They literally, literally cannot be diagnosed with pedophilia if they are only attracted to anime children. And that's going by the assumption that they are, which the secret didn't even say this guy is. It said he ships them, not anything about sexual attraction. Are you sexually attracted to every character you ship? Do you think that's how shipping works? You're wrong about that too, my friend.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait. I need some more context here, because I've never heard of this.

Does he
1.) Ship underage characters together?
2.) Ship kid characters with adult characters?
3.) Ship kid characters with himself?

Cause the first one is completely fine (I've been shipping Digimon characters since I was 11 myself, so you will pry those OTPs from my cold dead hands), the second is kinda dodgy but still animated characters, so whatevs (I assume they're animated?) and the third one is definitely dodgy.

[feotakahari]

Every single time I have seen a website propose to ban “pedophiles,” it’s started banning grown men who like to kiss other grown men. Every. Single. Time.

[esteefee]

ISTG there must be a dopamine rush attached to hurling the pedophile epithet because tumblrites keep going for it like rats after a cocaine lever.

[(Anonymous)]

Serious question. Can someone pinpoint exactly when anime shipping (and increasingly ALL shipping) was suddenly outlawed on the internet? Because if memory serves me right, it wasn't even three years ago when people could openly do so without being afraid of being accused of heinous crimes by antis left and right. Nobody gave a shit and it was understood that art can't hurt you. Tumblr was and apparently continues to be the single worst thing that has ever happened to fandom in countless different ways.

[(Anonymous)]

Will someone please explain what is going on

[dahli]

Eeesh. That's fucking messed up but if it comes from tumblr, I'm not even surprised anymore. I've seen some serious harrasment and pedo-calling to people who shipped any underage character. (Remember Sheith, anyone?). And all done under the banner of justice, when they actually want the other party to "STOP SHIPPING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!!1!1"

(One time I unintentionally stumbled through tags upon a post where a user was calling an 18yo's work to inform them she was a pedophile and should be fired. All because she shipped anime characters that happened to be 1) underage and 2) a ship the other person hated. And yes, she recorded the call and posted in on tumblr while threatening to keep calling until she ruined the other girls' life if she didn't quit. Some fine folks, indeed.)

[(Anonymous)]

I know nothing about this, so my first instinct is that this guy's being hated on shipping underage dragons. I'm loving every second of it.

The Situation

[(Anonymous)]

So, all I can find of this currently is that the user's name is 'Tox' or 'Tox the Dragon' and he was banned for 'posing a threat to minors.' One post claims he linked to actual porn (didn't say what kind of porn) on the site which, yeah, he deserves a ban for that if it's true. There wasn't a source on that, though.

Other than that he liked lolicon and shotacon apparently? I can't find anything about particular characters and such, mostly just anti's insisting as usual that CP is CP whether drawn or not. I wasn't able find any non-anti opinions easily at this time and again, I didn't see any sources or proof of the claims, just a lot of hearsay.

It's absolutely appalling that we're at the point where we now doubt claims about pedophilia on the internet and have to investigate it because of all the crying wolf that's gone on about it. Thanks, Antis!

I really wish OP would provide more insight on this from their perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

I fully supported Tox when it was just fiction. But from what I understand, what got him banned was Flightrising looking into his private messages and he was having inappropriate discussions with a 13-year-old and a 15-year-old. And I absolutely draw the line there. Like whatever fiction you want. I might find it creepy, but I won't care. But don't discuss sexual things with minors.

[(Anonymous)]

I generally have a mistrust of grown dudes that are into lolis, lusting after teenage characters, or shipping underage characters. I'm not gonna make posts "exposing" these kinds of dudes, but I'm generally gonna nod in agreement to people who speak out against them and not want anything to do with them. I stopped following Digibro when I found out he has an obsession with lolis and moeshit.

Call me a misandrist or whatever, but you gotta be wary of men who are into anything involving kids. Better to be safe than sorry.

[riddian]

I've never seen a case where the admins banned somebody based on hearsay. If you want me to believe that it was people yelling on Tumblr or whatever that got him banned, instead of something he did that broke site rules, you're going to need to provide some receipts. Otherwise you're full of shit. I don't know or particularly care about his inclinations, I don't know what got him banned, but I do know that a lot of justly banned people like to screech about their innocence to try to salvage their reputation, and this looks like more of the same. It's like Clairvoyant with extra discourse.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, a shitty anti. Nice. Plenty of those everywhere it seems.

[(Anonymous)]

Calling someone who likes anime ships a pedophile is like saying that someone who ships in the 'Warriors' fandom (a series that revolves around talking cats) wants to have sex with their pets.