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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-20 06:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #4518 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4518 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
inb4 the "Targaryens are just CrAzY" and "she was always a psychotic murderer! foreshadowing!!!" lines

(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because they are "lines" doesn't make them untrue.

/loathed her from day one

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
So there's a backlash to the backlash of the backlash now. Fascinating.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry you don't like facts.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a fan of the series and so haven't watched beyond the beginning but.. didn't she start burning people alive in like season 1? If you're someone inclined to torture people to death, no matter how good or bad, it doesn't seem all that surprising that you're a crazy asshole somewhere deep inside.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Anyone who says this shit, I implore them to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mlNyqhnc1M

Dany's arc was fucking squandered. Don't excuse D&D's pisspoor writing with "b-but foreshadowing!!".

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nayrt

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind her going crazypants. I mind that instead of going A->B->C->D-> they went straight from A to X.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
This. She was never going to be a good ruler but throwing her off the deep end is just a messy way of going about it.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
Right? I'm never one to shy from a dark ending, but I would like it to be earned. Lazy writing should always be criticized.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
If anyone deserved the Mad Queen title, it was Cersei, but she's not a Targaryen so I guess she can't be insane.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't call Cersei mad. Evil Queen, certainly, but she wasn't insane.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
And if you want to talk about Mad Kings, Joffrey certainly qualifies as one of those. He's probably an actual psychopath, not because he enjoys doing horrible things to people (as many GoT characters do), but because he genuinely doesn't seem to get WHY it's not great to do them.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Too much inbreeding in the Lannister line. Same thing happened with the Pharaohs. Brothers and sisters reproducing causes some fucked up people down the family line.

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I have never read the books so my opinions are just on the show

(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
She had no idea how to be a peace time queen. She was raised to fight for the throne. And she has been fighting in one way or another since the show began but no one ever taught her how to rule after she won. How to bring everyone, even the people she conquered, together and make a new peaceful kingdom. It was ingrained in her from birth to fight and she didn't know any other way to rule. To me she was consistent throughout the show. She was never crazy or blood mad. She was just a War Queen and in the end after the war had no where to go.

Re: I have never read the books so my opinions are just on the show

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
But her downfall wasn't in her failure to rule (like King Robert)? They were still at war when she committed THE SIN and then welp, she had to go, we have no idea how she would actually rule Westeros as its Queen because... the finale happened.

Makes me wonder.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-20 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
If this anything like what happened with How I Met Your Mother. Like, they had decided how it was going to end at some point but when character arc and story swept past where they really needed to start angling for it, they sort of disregarded that and figured fans would understand and go along with them. So, instead of it being a culmination of story arcs and character arcs building on each other, everything got all twisted around or discarded just so they could get to that ending they had decided on.

Re: Makes me wonder.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I heard the theory that GRR Martin had told them what he was planning for the end but like in bullet point/cliffsnotes format and they just didn't bother fleshing it out properly.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I hope this goes down in history as one of the worst ways ever to have ended a character arc.
I didn’t think the writers could fuck up as badly as they did but buy they sure did. It’s as popcorn-munching-entertaining as it trainwrecklingy horrible.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
The worst part is it COULD have been handled in a better way with only a few minor changes and still had the same result (mostly). But man, what the hell.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
It’s as popcorn-munching-entertaining as it trainwrecklingy horrible.

OMG that's the most perfect description.

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
*looks up thread* Huh, didn't realize there were this many D&D dick riders in this place. Or people would get this triggered over someone offering a video essay.

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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-21 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
Actually the finale really brought it all together. They really saved her character in the last episode and brought her hero arch roaring back in fantastic style.


You... You should watch it...


Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
They set her up as a power hungry warlord hellbent on conquering foreign lands with her magical dragon-sized flying flamethrower. It's not like they were subtle about it. The ending was rushed but that's where it was always going to end up to, Dany dead by Westerosi hands after committing atrocities.

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