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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-12-18 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #4730 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4730 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
...Alphinaud is 16, Estinien and Aymeric are 32. Can we not ship someone IN HIS TEENS with the two full grown adults? HE IS LITERALLY HALF THEIR AGE.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
plz take your gay hat off-brand southern baptist purity politics thoughtcrime fretting back to church

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
What a ridiculous overreaction. Finding a ship between a 16 y.o. and a 32 y.o. distasteful is not "southern baptist purity politics thoughtcrime fretting" ffs

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say "WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE FICTIONAL CHILDREN WAAAHH" is the far bigger overreaction here.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't aware that a sixteen year age gap in which one of them IS LITERALLY BELOW 18 STILL AND STILL DEVELOPING is fucking purity politics. Go away, this lesbian is grossed out by how people ignore that one of them is a LITERAL TEENAGER AND A MINOR.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like the idea either, but it is a fictional relationship and I do think this is a situation where the appropriate response is ship-and-let-ship

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry but given the majority age of FF14 players is 25+ in my experience, I'm a little bit uncomfortable to grown women fapping to two grown men fucking a teenaged boy.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
age of majority in eorzea is 16, so... no, not a minor.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
He's a minor. He acts like a normal teenager. There were 12-year-old noblewomen getting married to adults in our past, that doesn't make it okay that thirteen-year-olds get married to adults now.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
The age of majority in a fictional country could not possibly have any bearing on the matter one way or the other

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
why do ppl always bring up age of consent as if that's some kind of winning statement? age of consent laws are so that teenagers can have sex with EACH OTHER without getting into legal trouble for it. it's not so that adults can perv on teenagers and face no consequences for their actions.

Actually, I don't believe that's true.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
purity politics is a real thing that's about how young women are forced into horrible/cruel practices in order to preserve their 'innocence'.

stop making it to mean people not liking your weirdo kinks for the love of god.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who ships all kinds of fucked up shit and as someone who used to ship teens with adults while barely out of my teens and identifying with the fictional teen, this right here. I get that strikethrough and similar purges were pushed/orchestrated by conservative evangelical types, and I think they were full of it, but someone calling your kink/ship disgusting or saying it makes them uncomfortable =/= purity culture. Even saying your kink should be banned from the internet (good luck removing anything from the internet, honestly) =/= purity culture.

And (except maybe on kink forums or something), not following YKINMK doesn’t make someone a pro-censorship bigot. I think scat is gross and vore creeps me out. Adult/young teen creeps me out. Adult/prepubescent child fic would make me avoid the poster and all their fic/posts. Saying “your kink makes me uncomfortable and I’d prefer not to interact with you because of your kink” =/= censorship.

Sending people anon “die pedo scum” messages over fic, or trying to get them fired IRL is horrible, but not everyone who says they’re uncomfortable with adult/child fic is harassing fic posters, just like probably 99% of people posting adult/child fic aren’t pedophiles.

Most of the most vocal “hdu post dubcon teacher/student fic on your own blog/Ao3” types just keep right on using tumblr/Ao3 and refuse to work at setting up a pg-13 online playpen for themselves; they just whine while doing so. And I agree that their behavior is shitty. But just because their disgust at your kinks reminds you of evangelical purity bullshit censorship crusades, that doesn’t mean it’s coming from the same people or the same culture.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
It actually encompasses both because they are connected, but anyone who says "weird kinks" like that's a bad thing wouldn't understand anyway.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'm no fan of the ship(s) either, but "we"? There is no "we" here. Anon has their ships and you have yours. Stop trying to dictate people's ships.
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Haven’t we had Hannibal/Will shippers here before?

[personal profile] feotakahari 2019-12-19 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, it’s not like “has a completely messed up ship” disqualifies you from posting here.

Re: Haven’t we had Hannibal/Will shippers here before?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know the characters in question so I can't comment on the messed upness, but as a Hannibal/Will shipper, from what I've seen of the Hannigram fandom is that it's very much acknowledged that the ship/show is 15 levels of fucked up and not 'HEA' or anything that anyone should aspire to in a relationship.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
The irony is that, age gap aside, they actually have a very healthy emotional dynamic going on in terms of being supportive of each other and respecting each other. The only thing that potentially makes it "messed up" is the age thing.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't one of them a serial killer

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
hannibal literally manipulates and gaslights will down to his level and makes him complicit in a bunch of murders. they have a very compelling dynamic but it's not healthy at all, and trying to frame it as such is weird as fuck.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Holy fuck, you guys are on fandom secrets now? Are you aware that ten years ago, you would have gotten baffled reactions from absolutely everyone in fandom for saying this? Fandom has always been a place where ships that would be bad for real are treated normally, and ships that are fucked up even in their fictional state are also treated normally. My goodness, where did you lot even COME from into fandom?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Who the hell cares what people 10 years ago would have said? It's right or it's wrong, regardless of what people 10 years ago thought. I just don't get this kind of weird "you don't even believe in fandom" shit. Make the argument for why you're right.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-19 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Okay, here's a point that I never see anyone talk about because I guess it's uncomfortable or something, but I think what puritans are refusing to accept is that these characters (unlike human beings in the real world) are designed to be attractive. They don't look like real people because they are fantasy creations that you are supposed to find attractive. And yes, this extends to teenage characters.

There is such an insanely vast difference between characters and real people, and it scares me that people conflate the two.

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[personal profile] digitalghosts 2020-01-05 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I am puzzled why everyone thinks Alphinaud is 16 since he is about 19 at the end of Shadowbringers. He is 16 in Heavensward but I would not be very certain of it as could be anything around that if we would have taken his starting age as 14. In pure theory, he is 14 in base game, 16 in Heavensward, 17 in Stormblood and 19 in Shadowbringers. That does not account for the fact that Eorzea has slower time flow than other dimension and he could be in his 30s by the time patches end. Otherwise, I do not care who ships anyone with whom and just wondered where does the age even come from.