[ SECRET POST #5307 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5307 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 38 secrets from Secret Submission Post #760.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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General comments → Off-topic discussion thread

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[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I think this has always been the case. With a couple of really blatant exceptions (Rizzoli & Isles literally using it in their advertising campaigns, for example), actual on-screen queerbaiting is vanishingly rare.

What is much more common nowadays is attempting to bait actors/writers etc into engaging with ship discourse, which shippers then take as endorsement and acknowledgement of their ship as canonically valid, rather than the clickbait BS it actually is.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know whether or not "queer baiting" is the right word to use but I absolutely believe that content producing companies know about fandom and shipping and queer fans, and intentionally make decisions with those fans in mind for purely monetary reasons, often while knowing that they will not ultimately give those fans the content they want or the representation they deserve.

[(Anonymous)]

Absolutely. I think there's definitely been a few cases of genuine bait over the years, but for the most part it's shippers reading way more into the text than is there and when they're wrong instead of just being disappointed and getting over it, they start screaming at the creators for 'tricking' them.

Ship your ships, but recognize when it's not going to happen.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah i've never understood this trend of calling queerbait when some queer ship didn't happen? it's really easy to tell if a ship is actually going to go there or not and i'm unsure if people being surprised is down to a massive amount of denial, or just incredible stupidity.

[(Anonymous)]

TJLC in a nutshell. Nothing new, though. wishful thinking is a strong drug, as is the idea that canonical=legitimacy.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the vast majority of accusations of queerbaiting are the same old "my ship didn't become canon" fandom tantrums. Not to mention -- queerbaiting implies there's a chance of the ship becoming canon. You're either delusional or profoundly naive if you think a media conglomerate like Disney is going to provide a queer ship for one of its high profile characters.

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I agree that most of the allegations of queerbaiting I've heard are from fandoms where the subtext isn't even strong enough to imply the possibility of the ship going canon. There are a couple instances though that I think the writers played it out for whatever reason (I'm not entirely sure slashiness brings that many viewers). One of those is Gotham with Nygma & Cobblepot and the other is actually Sherlock. I'm actually not a fan of Sherlock but I think the subtext was intentional fanservice with no intention of actually following through. I think Sherlock "baits" more than one ship, though (Sherlock/ Molly and Sherlock/Irene as well). The artlessness and insincerity of it is one of the biggest reasons I don't like Sherlock.

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Honestly, my biggest problem with fans invoking queerbaiting is that they're acting so personally offended at the lack of representation of a group they're not part of. It feels like taking somebody else's voice and argument and presenting it as their own because it validates their ship opinions.

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[(Anonymous)]

Which traits are those? (I’m curious because I thought of Violet as being the one with the biggest stereotypical autistic traits in the Ducktales reboot, and to a lesser extent Huey.)

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. Never saw any of his traits as obviously autistic?

[(Anonymous)]

This character has NEVER come off as autistic to me, whatsoever.

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[(Anonymous)]

Pendergast secret, YAY!!!

I liked the Helen trilogy, but I still think the best books are Still Life With Crows & The Cabinet of Curiosities. There are a few of the newer books that I think aren't very good, compared to the rest (*coughOBSIDIANCHAMBERcough*), but overall, I still enjoy the series & look forward to the new releases.

You are right though, Pendergast has changed throughout the series & not in a good way. I find him to be far more irritating now than in earlier books. He knows too much. Before it was fun because they showed more of how he got to a conclusion, but now he's just all-knowing & gloating & pretentious sometimes.

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Oooh, pretty. Would watch!

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god YES

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"No intervention of modern politics"

OH. You're one of those people who thinks wokeness and PCness and everything else we're talking about and dealing with now is a new thing and never something people had to address before the 1990s.

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NS, NF, etc.

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Official advertise your fandom-related event thread.

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2. ONE POST PER USER under this thread.
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4. What is NOT allowed: anything for profit, any kind of fic/art commissions, seeking 1-on-1 RP, that kind of thing.

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Official clickables thread.

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General comments:

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Learning Languages

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Anyone learning a language at the moment? What are you hoping to use it for?

I'm learning Mandarin and also want to learn either Swedish or Norwegian but can't pick. Mandarin because it can only come in useful for jobs. A scandi language because I want to move there eventually.

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Games thread!

[(Anonymous)]

Summarize your fandom or hobby in a way that makes it sound utterly nonsensical.