[ SECRET POST #6002 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6002 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 31 secrets from Secret Submission Post #858.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

You realize that a lot of the time directors don't have final cut, right? They usually aren't the ones who took out those scenes.

[(Anonymous)]

You don't need to stand for hack directors, you know. Or is it just kneejerk contrarianism?

[(Anonymous)]

"Directors often don't have final cut" is just a factual true statement though

[(Anonymous)]

Knee-jerk contrarianism it is.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I feel like I've read too many trivia sections on IMDB which discuss studio meddling that leads to critical scenes being cut from the final product to really buy this stubborn stance.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

You are, indeed, a knee-jerk contrarian.

[(Anonymous)]

Alrighty then

[(Anonymous)]

Congrats on a successful derail. Leaping to correct people is clearly the tactic to use, I'm stealing that for the future.

[(Anonymous)]

Is it really derailing?

OP is raising the question of why directors cut something from the movie in its theatrical version, and then put it back in the extended version.

Well, oftentimes, the answer is that they don't - the studio is the one that cut it from the theatrical version, not the director.

[(Anonymous)]

That's literally just the truth, though. Directors often get told by the studio that they have to take things out. Sometimes it's for ratings reasons, sometimes it's for timing reasons, sometimes it's just because the studio doesn't think the scene is important to the work as a whole.

[(Anonymous)]

"Well, actually-ing" the OP is always good for starting drama, especially if you can get it in as a first comment. It always comes across as confrontational.

[(Anonymous)]

How is it "well actually-ing"!!

It's not a meaningless technicality. It's extremely relevant to the point OP was making!

[(Anonymous)]

Name names, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

+1. I can vaguely think of a few examples (didn't they reveal how Palpatine returned in a video game cutscene or something?) but nothing specific, and I would like names!

[(Anonymous)]

Some scenes I am aware of that were but but are important (or change the overall movie).

The unicorn scene from Blade Runner.
A ton in Prometheus that would have explained what the white alien dudes were doing.
There is a scene cut from Independence Day that would have explained why Goldblum was able to hack into an alien ship.

There is another movie I can't remember the name of that cuts a character but then has the other people refer to them (or their actions). But I can't remember who the hell it is.

[(Anonymous)]

FWIW I'm pretty sure the unicorn scene is an example of something that Ridley Scott always wanted in the movie and that was taken out of the movie by studio executives.

It is very, very clear that the theatrical version of Blade Runner is not the version that Ridley Scott wanted at the time.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm guessing jj abrams

[(Anonymous)]

FR
Because to word the secret this way creates low hanging fruit for needless misleads like the upthread comments.

And also that way we can actually have a discussion on whether or not this is a "director was being an asshat by choosing not to put scene in film" secret or "producers chose a different edit from director and now director is bitterly reminding everyone it wasn't their decision to cut this scene" secret.

"Filmmaker" can mean almost any person creating films, not all of us can agree it will automatically just mean "The Director" or "The Writer" or "The Producer" or "The Lead Actor" or "The Director/Writer/Producer/Actor who did most of the work on this film so they can literally be shorthanded as 'The Filmmaker'"

[(Anonymous)]

"The Snyder Cut" of one of the Superman movies, way back when.

Somebody filmed "Maurice" one time and it got cut to bits in post and there's at least one fan re-construction that tries to get closer to what the original director intended.

Oh! There's a c-drama I watched, "Maiden Holmes", that often ran cut scenes in a little box during the end credits. One episode had a chaste (but nice) romance scene. The end credit version of the same scene was considerably spicier. (I applaud.)

[meadowphoenix]

you think directors have the kind of ego that would leave any scene they actually liked on the cutting room floor without being forced?

[(Anonymous)]

Right? If anything, they're more likely to do the opposite and NOT trim stuff that really should have been trimmed to make the movie more coherent.

Huh.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, yeah, if the film makers you're referring to are the ones to have removed that crucial scene or at least had some control over approving the film with it cut, and then they constantly cite that scene, that is very annoying. And also makes me think they aren't that great at filmmaking.

If they didn't remove the scene, have final cut, or have final approval (not all exactly the same thing), I can understand why they might constantly cite that scene. I would be upset about a crucial scene's removal, especially if the film wasn't as well received as expected, and want audiences to know that it wasn't my fault and that the film isn't what I intended, that it could have been much better.

[(Anonymous)]

I have had people comment that something I wrote in a fic was contradicted by Deleted Scene X. I always reply that as far as I am concerned deleted isn't canon, particularly if the deleted scene changes plot or relationships. I assume it was taken out for a reason and I go with what is in the finL product.

Unless I don't. So I'm not criticizing anyone who views it differently.

[(Anonymous)]

Ridley Scott this is for you -_-