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⌈ Secret Post #6002 ⌋

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

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Games thread!

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I went in watching season 1 with very low expectations (I disliked the book, or more accurately was bored by the book) but my friend was super excited so I watched it, and was pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed it. I think the low budget was part of the charm for me. I am very hesitantly looking forward to season 2.

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Oof, that fandom's not alone. I HATE when I'm reading fic set in any historical period and I can tell the author is like... checking off a list of Correct Things To Say and it feels SO out of place and out of character. Like, even characters who would have the right *opinions* would use radically different language to express that, or would have incomplete language for some concepts!

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same! I love the look of old-tech-looking machines in sci-fi, they look so much more alive than the slick, modern tech-looking sci-fi.

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I wasn't expecting Gabriel to be central, and I've got SUPER mixed feelings about it... I really love Jon Hamm's comedy acting, but I just know this is going to lead to more Gabriel/Aziraphale and something about that like, legit panics me and I don't know why? It's such a STUPID thing to call a 'trigger', but it's way beyond a 'squick' because I'll get physically ill.

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You realize that a lot of the time directors don't have final cut, right? They usually aren't the ones who took out those scenes.

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I totally agree! Or, really, not even necessarily adapting the books, but just bringing the atmosphere of wild free-wheeling weird inventiveness back to things.

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If you're doing AO3, isn't there a tag for that? I remember seeing it a few times like "canon compliant attitudes toward X", and it's also something you can include in your disclaimer if people still do those. And summary for that matter.

So "18XXs compliant characters" used to be a tag. I remember this because my first fandom was PotC. Sometimes it was waved away (like let's all have a good time whatevs) but there was also a disclaimer in most fics about the attitudes and social climate still being (somewhat, at least) canon compliant or compliant to the times. So there might have been characters that were racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. That didn't imply the author entertained those views themselves.

I do get that there are probably some people out there who take no issue and would hide behind the guise of I'm just being compliant....but I think there's a difference.

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You are incredibly right, and correct, and wise, and right. It's a great aesthetic. Is this what people are talking about when they talk about faxpunk, because if so, I'm all in.

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I love this too. I'm a big fan of it, many of its iterations globally. Where is this from specifically and please share any recs, OP or anyone else! Anime, cartoons (don't care the language), books, movies, comic books, whatever!

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Ooooof, very mixed feelings about this one (also I know nothing about the setting or the property in question, so just going off what's said in the secret).

On the one hand, I very much agree that writing historical stuff using hyper-modern terminology about identity is frustrating! Not only is it historically inaccurate, but it's a flat and boring way of writing.

On the other hand, a lot of people use the fact that historical attitudes were different as an excuse to indulge in straight-out bigotry. And that misses the mark even worse than writing everything as totally up-to-date and contemporary, and I think there's just no justification at all for it. People historically were more than capable of thinking rationally about, discussing, and criticizing the dominant social mores of their time and advocating for equality, humanity and decency; they just didn't necessarily do it in the same ways or using the same language that we do today. That dynamic is so interesting to me and it's such a big part of what I want to see out of fic set in historical times - it's the fact that history *isn't* linear and often people think in ways that are just *different* from what we would expect.

On the third hand, getting that kind of historical difference right is very difficult and often requires significant research. So I can't fully blame fic writers for not wanting to do it and just falling back on contemporary attitudes instead.

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To me, season 1 and the reaction on social media (mostly Tumblr, some Twitter) was a slightly depressing education on how fandom goes gaga over what was, IMO, an extremely modest amount of m/m. I keep this to myself mostly because someone always gets upset when I say it and as an older person yeah, I know about gay subtext. It's been around for ages. In the 21st century, I'm surprised peoples' standards aren't higher, but I think people are so starved for positive gay relationships on mainstream media that they're happy with skimpy portions of it... portions so lean that it can easily, easily be missed by viewers, which means the show has nailed best of both worlds by contenting people who want m/m in their media and providing plausible deniability people who would lose their shit if they see gay relationships in their media.

That makes it sound like I hated the show. I didn't. I didn't love it, but it was decent and I enjoyed the Crowley and Aziraphale bits most of all. I'll probably watch season 2, but without getting my hopes up.

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Uh... can someone provide more context about the Hitler thing? That really happened?