[ SECRET POST #6321 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6321 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Lark Rise to Candleford]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of rape]




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07. [WARNING for discussion of child abuse]




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08. [WARNING for discussion of underage ships]

[Five Nights at Freddy's]


































Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #903.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I'm not trans, and I read slash and het so I don't mind PIV scenes, but...IDK, I'll read a gender/sex swap thing, but I'm with you in general for trans male characters. I'm not sure why it gives me the ick a bit, but I guess I expect m/m sex options in slash whether the characters are trans or cis.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

I guess I expect m/m sex options in slash whether the characters are trans or cis.

That's it exactly: The fact that all of them seem to follow this trend of putting the afab character on bottom. I personally have yet to run into a fic that doesn't, which just gives me a creeping suspicion that the authors aren't actually m/m writers. I don't have anything to back that up, but it's a trend that I hate. If the author wants vaginal sex, why are they in M/M? Why can't the trans man top? I am suspicious.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Because a vagina is male if it belongs to a trans man, and PIV sex is m/m if both characters are men.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. Not the way these authors are writing it.

I get what you are trying to say, but no.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Trans men don't suddenly become women just because they're on the bottom.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

They do when it's literally always the trans man on the bottom. I'll believe it's not people trying to pass m/f as m/m when the trans men gets to top once and a while.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

This relies on the assumption that top = man and bottom = woman, and that m/f necessarily involves women being in the bottom. But women can top, and men can bottom.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

It's easier to say top and bottom than "one who penetrates" and "one who is penetrated". But fine.

I'll believe it's not people trying to pass m/f as m/m when the trans men gets to Be The One Who Penetrates once and a while. *eye roll*

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Given that the vast majority of trans men do not get bottom surgery, because phalloplasty is an incredibly difficult surgery with a surfeit of complications and a low rate of success, even in real life the trans man is almost never the One Who Penetrates. Do you think most sex between trans men and cis men is just people trying to pass off hetero sex as gay sex?

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

If you don't have a homemade dick, a store-bought is fine.

So not only do I reject your statement that in real life the trans man is almost never the One Who Penetrates, but this also is a neat solution in fanfiction to having the afab always be penetrated.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

"Do you think most sex between trans men and cis men is just people trying to pass off hetero sex as gay sex?"
In fanfic, it definitely is a pretty big part of it, yes.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

I keep coming back to this comment and loling. "Almost never" is such a bold claim. Ftm tops exist, weirdo. Can you stop acting like you're defending trans men against sexism or whatever while also saying stupid shit like this? You obviously aren't talking about real life no matter how much you claim to be. Nobody is going to make you stop reading your precious bottom ftm PIV slash fic, okay?

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

THIS. Give me fics with the trans guy pegging his partner, male or female!

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

So you think what makes a man is having a dick, and what makes a woman is having a vagina?

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

No it's not. A vagina will always be a female sex organ no matter what the person who has it identifies it. You and cry and wail all you want, your cunt stays a female cunt, no matter how big your clit gets from the testo.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

I appreciate this comment more than most of the others in this discussion, because it's honest. I'd rather someone just say what they think than pretend to care about trans people being written "incorrectly" because the only way to make a trans man not actually a woman in your fic is to write him topping with a strap-on (until someone does that, and then suddenly they're "gender essentialist! so just because this character likes to top, they must be a man?! are you saying women can't top?!")

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

The thing that you don't get is that no, writing a trans man get dicked down in his vagina doesn't make the character less of a man but if 95 % of all trans smut is PIV with the trans dude getting dicked down in his vagina it is kinda iffy and fetishy. Same when only the girly guys get the trans treatment in fandom. And just like very obvious yaoi tropes where the bottom is ALWAYS portrayed as much moe effeminate are kinda iffy and fetishy.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Well, at least you just came out and said it, unlike the anon I've been arguing with. It's very obvious they feel the same way.

You'll probably not be surprised to know that I find it cissexist. A trans man is still a man even if he has a vagina; a trans woman is still a woman even if she has a dick. Their organs or lack thereof don't make them not their gender, anymore than a cis woman having a hysterectomy makes her no longer a woman.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

A trans man may still be a man even with a vagina but that doesn't magically turn the vagina into a male sex organ. Nor is a dick a ~girldick~ or a female genital just because it belongs to a trans woman. the trans woman is still a woman but her dick still isn't a female sex organ. And a vagina doesn't cease to exist just because a woman had a hysterectomy. It's not about the genitals changing the gender of a person, it's about how the gender identity of a person doesn't change the biological facts about their genitalia.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that's straight up transphobic.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

No it's not. Your genitals not magically switching the sex they are aligned with just because you identify as the other gender is not transphobic, it's just a fact. You can deny it all you want but your female vagina will never be male and your male dick will never be female. And that's okay!

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

You think your individual body parts have a gender identity independent of the rest of you? Fascinating! What other social constructs do they practice without your input? Do they each have their own religious beliefs and favored sports teams?

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe yours does. Personally, mine's a male sex organ, and I didn't even have to cry and wail about it. Skill issue.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Lol I mean, sure, revel in your delusions that your cunt is a male sex organ if that makes you feel better. Won't change the facts but hey.

Re: Based on 7

[(Anonymous)]

Your delulu doesn't make things trululu.