[ SECRET POST #6659 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6659 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 38 secrets from Secret Submission Post #951.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[case]

Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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01. https://i.imgur.com/drHirl9.png

[(Anonymous)]

S1 Jinx, yes.

S2 Jinx... got a whole lot of character softening, TBH.

Which, not a problem in and of itself, but vis a vis this secret, does kind of point to a trend of "even women who do get to be toxic and fucked up for a while don't get to stay that way."

[philstar22]

Agreed. And even when we do have straight up evil female characters, they have to be softened somehow either in later seasons/episodes/movies or straight up remakes (looking at you Maleficent and Wicked).

[thewakokid]

I liked Jinx. In season 1. I read her as the protagonist and not in any need of the "but just misunderstood softgirl, feel bad for her, she's actually a victim" bullshit she got in season 2. I liked her in season 1 and she didn't need fixing. I prefer her in the game, but she's a terrorist in season 1 and buddy, I support terrorism.

People are ALREADY deep in discourse about how it's sexist that people treat Azula as a villain, with the "she's just as much a misunderstood hero as her brother who everyone accepts" bullshit.

I don't know who the 3rd one is, but let me add my own: Nu!Carmen Sandiego. She was WAY better as a self driven master criminal, and not this "misunderstood secret anti-hero working for her own justice" bullshit from the new cartoon.

[(Anonymous)]

I know shows that do this but they are tbf nearly all Chinese or Korean shows, there are some western shows that go all-out with lady villany but not enough stick their guns to it I think. Some movies have done this I think but I am drawing up a bit of a blank off the top of my head atm.

[(Anonymous)]

It's because fandom reacts poorly to truly unapologetic female villains, despite claiming otherwise, and general audiences kind of hate female characters from the start so female villains that get to stay that way? Pah! As if.

So creators get stuck in this weird place of not being able to let go with their female characters because the percentage of the audience(me) that is going to enjoy it certainly looks very small. I personally say go ham with female villains because if enough people are already going to dislike her for existing then just run with it unapologetically because at least then she'll be fun and not in this weird in-between place.

[(Anonymous)]

Someone once commented about how many new minority characters tend to be played too safe, so they can get a bit boring. I think there's plenty that are interesting, but I kind of agreed with them and think it's what happens with women characters as well.

[turbobeholder]

The real question is the context to which these observations apply.
Obviously, it’s not all fiction from every time everywhere. This leaves much smaller subsets:
A) the particular selection as such (the problem is “how do I switch TV channel?”), or
B) statistics of desirable or undesirable selection over… shall we say, different stalls in the given marketplace (the problem is “my whole cable provider stinks!”, but then sensible follow-up questions are “what other TV providers are available to me?” and “how do I switch those?”). Why, yes, the dullest corners try to suppress any competition of higher quality. But generally this does not work well, and often at all (q.v. preorder onslaught Play-Asia had with Dead or Alive Xtreme 3).

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02. https://i.imgur.com/lo5Jz7T.png

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, please!

[(Anonymous)]

gestures at shounen animanga in general

there's no really comparable genre in western media though which is a shame

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03. https://i.imgur.com/9wuUdjL.png

[(Anonymous)]

all you can do is make the offer!

i think it's more likely to be received well if you make the offer tied to some SPECIFIC, discrete urgent bill - they need a $X for dental work or something. you can just say, hey, I have enough money and I WANT to spend it on you being okay.

you can also say that they can consider it a zero-interest loan if they want to. and if they get what they need right now and pay it back later, at least you helped them out in the jam so they didn't have to wait in pain, and if they never pay you back, then it was a gift after all.

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[(Anonymous)]

Ugh yeah, there's a certain sleazy feeling in getting positive comments on your fanworks by people who throw in shit you'd rather not get complimented on or by people you'd rather not get complimented by.

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[philstar22]

So much agree.

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06. https://i.imgur.com/Dqa789q.png

[(Anonymous)]

Having supernatural explanations ruins the point of Scooby Doo.

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07. https://i.imgur.com/VMuNzAF.png

[tabaqui]

Okay, so, you have a preference....? That's cool.
People gonna like what they like. I mean, I'm *baffled* by people who think Ryan Gosling is the end-all, be-all of good looks. He's...super-bland.
But, you know, you do you, and all.

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[Yumejoshi/otome/selfship fandom]

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, a lot of people notice. Especially because it's often not at all low-key, but unapologetically open homophobia. From the companies themselves to the fans, it's usually not subtle at all. They just always try to justify it in the most pathetic ways (often with an unhealthy dose of victim blaming like "these games/characters are made for us het women, how DARE you be misgynistic and try to take this from us!".

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NS, NF, etc.

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General comments:

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I can't believe I thought that

[(Anonymous)]

Drop all the things you can't believe you once thought. Or, things you think you should have known, but aren't sure.

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Games thread!

[(Anonymous)]

#Worldle #1165 (31.03.2025) 1/6 (100%)
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🎉

https://worldle.teuteuf.fr

I keep getting this one mixed up with another one on a different continent.

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Politics thread:

Any threads for explicitly non-fandom politics or non-fandom political news should go here.

[(Anonymous)]

Trump's talking about a third term. Which, of course, he's joking, guys! He's just trying to stir the libs up!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-teases-running-third-term-not-joking

oh okay

[turbobeholder]

So, um, what are your own conclusions?
The obvious one is that a lot of people are far too lazy (or stupid) to even try other pastures, even if they clearly don’t like the taste of wherever they are stuck. Or, to quote someone from fido7, «the mice got pricked, wept, yet continued to eat [the same] cactus».
But, of course, there can always be more in this.