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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-11-16 06:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #1046 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1046 ⌋

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Notes:

THIS goes into effect starting with Submissions Post 151, as secrets were posted before the poll went up last week.

Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 353 secrets from Secret Submission Post #150.
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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
147. http://i33.tinypic.com/11mdyeu.png

[identity profile] justaminuet.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You are either a troll, or you let fandom teach you some pretty messed up lies.

[identity profile] milo1047.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this some veiled accusation along the lines of 'all men are rapists/potential rapists' or something?

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[identity profile] majutsukai.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh

What

[identity profile] wondersuzan.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You have no idea how happy this secret makes me, to know that somone acknowledges what I've been saying for years.

The only way to be safe is to KNOW what they are like, and the only way, the only real way I've found to feel empowered is to make them know the fear and pain we live with every day.

Thank you, anon, for staying safe and helping others to do so with your secret.

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[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
TROOOOOOOLLLL IN THE DUNGEON.

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[identity profile] tayles.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
While it's good to be aware and cautious... you're gonna have an awfully lonely life.

[identity profile] xenafox.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Er O_o *Loss for words* I want to say troll...

[identity profile] birdboy2000.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this like how browsing /a/ teaches people you can never trust 3-D women?

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(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so recent events have brought up the subjects of rape and abuse in certain corners of fandom - check. A few have been alarmist and man-hating - check. The number of women raped every year is frightening - check.

What was the point of this secret?

[identity profile] eugenetapdance.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Troll is doing misandry wrong. And they wonder why there aren't more men in online fandom.

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which I guess makes me happy my fandom affords me the chance to make friends with black men

[identity profile] hooverdam.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
this is kinda like saying "fandom has taught me I can never trust black people" just fyi

thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (joy)

[personal profile] thene 2009-11-17 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not getting a 'troll' vibe here, oddly enough... Anyway, it sounds to me like you were too naive previously and have now swung too far in the opposite direction. It's true that letting someone - anyone, don't think that women are never ever predatory - get close to you gives them an opportunity to harm you if they wish to. It's also true that more or less every man you ever get to know will, at some point in your acquaintanceship, make misogynistic jokes around you, will try to nudge you into gender-conformism, etc.

What's not true is that this has to control your life. See, that's just letting the terrorists win.

Trust is always like that, though, whoever you're trusting in, male or female or neither. Someone might let you down, massively. You can either trust them anyway and be ready to pick up the pieces later, or you can give up.

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Is it bad...

[identity profile] roxiful.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
... that the first thing I thought of was Twilight?

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[identity profile] herlittlepony.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Dude. It's good to be cautious and realistic, and yes, men can be violent bullies. But the vast majority of them ... aren't. Women can be just as cruel/violent/abusive, although the physical difference really highlights it in men. Don't go around feeling paranoid and victimized! That does not help anyone!

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[identity profile] clarice.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I actually don't think this is a troll secret, just hideously misguided naivete. Should you be cautious in a culture in which 6% of college men surveyed admitted to having raped someone? Sure. But the other 90% of dudes are not out to rape or hurt you, and they're not hard to find. Additionally, if you reserve your good sense instincts for men, remember ladies can also rape, rob, or mutilate you.

And I'm also pretty thankful I'm not in whatever dour fandoms you hang out in.

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[identity profile] lyrica.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
what

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More men for me, then. Thanks, bro.

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upon further reflection

[identity profile] hooverdam.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
My fandom has afforded me the chance to make many close male friends. Conclusion: Sucks to be you.

[identity profile] antler-action.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
It can be scary and depressing reading certain stories, finding out about certain statistics, and I see where you're coming from, in a way. But (and I know this sounds really corny) if you live in fear, whatever fraction of men it is that really should scare you-- you've already let them win. That's what they want, for you to be scared of them and not challenge them. Assuming you live in a place where there is to some extent a safe space for women, you really can't let them get to you like that. Not to say, "just pretend everything's fine," but there is a balance.

(If you live in a place that really is fairly dangerous for women, of course, feel free to disregard.)

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(Anonymous) 2009-11-17 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry to the men in this thread, but if this secret wasn't made by a butthurt dude, I will seriously eat my hat.

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I feel very sorry for you

[identity profile] ainu-laire.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Living in such fear and suspicion leads to a lonely life.

I've known my fair share of scumbags. They were both men and women.

Also, OP, again assuming you're not a troll, I recommend taking a self-defense class. I'm in one right now and I'm happy with the skills I'm learning. It's also a good confidence booster, which is one reason many people take it.

[identity profile] gethenian.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Fandom?

I got this from my MOTHER.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
/Veronica is SOOOO glad she didn't grow up on the Internet with idiots

[identity profile] bandnerd88.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Really? ...Really?

I'm sorry, but if you're not trolling, that sounds like a pretty sad life to live. :/ Not only is living in fear like that awful, I think guys are pretty awesome. And the majority of them are not out to get you. There are scumbag men out there, sure, but there are scumbag women out there, too.

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