[ SECRET POST #1575 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1575 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 132 secrets from Secret Submission Post #225.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].
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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

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[justaminuet.livejournal.com]

I can't stand Tolkien's way of writing. It's far too much like reading a text book. He's so busy shoving your brain full of details, that I personally feel it's missing a lot of emotion. Of course, they're my father's absolute favorite books, so it's all a matter of personal taste.

There are plenty of other people who feel the way you and I do, OP. In fact, I don't think it's that unpopular an opinion.

[cephiedvariable.livejournal.com]

:/

"Much better?"

The movies are amazing, but not better than the book no matter your opinion. Which is definitely not an unpopular opinion as I hear it about 80% of every time the book comes up in conversation.

and OP you are welcome to your opinion but for some reason every time someone tells me they think this book is boring or badly written I just want to say such irrationally mean things. They are beautiful and evocative and thoughtful omggggg

[akuryounoseiki.livejournal.com]

To be quite honest (and this is gonna make me sound like a douchebag), I have a hard time relating to people who don't like or get Tolkien. Especially when it comes to LOTR. I can understand not being a fan of the Silmarillion because it really does read like a textbook. But LOTR?

I think it's because I have such a significant amount of emotional attachment to it. When I encounter people who dismiss LOTR, my inner default reaction is "why don't you love this thing that I also love? :(" as if it's a given that you MUST love LOTR. Obviously this is not a given.

Although, to be honest, I think I'd respect someone more who actually read the whole thing before saying that they didn't like it, as opposed to the majority of people who don't even get through Bilbo's birthday party.

[cyren-2132.livejournal.com]

If you were able to finish it, you did better than me. Yuck. (But I do love the movies.)

[aethre.livejournal.com]

Yeah, not a fan of LotR (books or movies - I'm not sure how I sat down and read all of the books in, like, a week ten years ago) either, though I'm not exactly subtle about it. It's a bit to do with the writing (yes, I'm one of the too many treeeees people) and a lot to do with the fact that it's more about the plot than the characters. I love the Hobbit, so it's not Tolkien, just LotR. And that entire genre. There's never been a swords and sorcery high fantasy epic that I've liked.

[ashley marquardt (from livejournal.com)]

I agree with you OP. DX

I thought it was just me and thought once or twice about making my own secret saying the same thing, but honestly? I read The Fellowship of the Ring, and I was just... Bored. I don't know why, or how, but it wasn't interesting to me at all. :-/

Especially the part where they all sit around and smoke. WHY was that in there? It made no sense.... ^_^'

[childings.livejournal.com]

I thought parts of the book were boring, while others were really engaging. I think the LOTR series were some of the most unevenly written novels I've ever read (if that makes sense)

[missing-mile-15.livejournal.com]

I couldn't get through them, which I feel ashamed about frequently. Tolkien's style just doesn't do anything for me.

[(Anonymous)]

I never tell people this but I mostly got through the books because I had to read them for a class. I don't mean I thought they were terrible, I didn't at all. But they were difficult to get through (and I've read some really tough, dense stuff, not just "popular literature") and after a while seemed... repetitive. Great books and I acknowledge that but I'm pretty sure I'll never read them again.

But I didn't like the movies much at all. The first one was pretty but it bored me and I didn't bother with the other two.

[gabzillaz.livejournal.com]

I don't know if they are better, but I prefer the movies. The books are awesome, but it's not something I would read over and over again.

[grlgoddess.livejournal.com]

I think LotR is one of the few times where it's acceptable to think the movies are better than the books. Even those who love the books have to admit that they're not the easiest things to get through. I mean, they were walking through a swamp for LIKE A MILLION YEARS WHY WHY WHY. Sorry. One day I'll get past that. Ahem.

The movies, on the other hand, are really good movies. They were visually spectacular, and fairly faithful to the books (I believe? There's not a lot of complaining about it, at any rate).

[radian]

Every time I attempt to read Tolkien I fall asleep half a page in. I've been told time and time again that it gets better, but see previous sentence.

[urplesquirrel.livejournal.com]

OMG, I agree with this so much. The books are dull as dirt to me. Tolkien was a world-builder and a linguist, not a storyteller, and it shows. The movies are a much, much better variation of the story because they distill it to the stuff that was actually good. Not chapters upon chapters of walking and walking and meeting characters who do nothing and will never appear again...

[freak-of-spade.livejournal.com]

Yeah well...that's just, like, your opinion, man.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I go both ways on this.

One hand: Yes, okay. Professor T was a linguist. He wrote LOTR mostly as a showcase for his made-up languages. The books are huge and the pacing isn't exactly up to most peoples' attention spans. Gotcha.

Other hand: For an academic, his writing was fucking beautiful and his imagination was incomparable even to this day. Even though LOTR is very dense and I find some of it a little dreary myself, there are nuggets in there of such beauty that I cry every time I read them, and I've read the book every Christmas since I was eleven. That's now... coming up on my fifteenth readthrough and I never tire of it. Even better, I always find something new to find beautiful and moving, a turn of phrase or emotion that buoys me. His work has touched me so deeply I got a bit wibbly thinking about it just now.

So yeah. Like anon above, I have a hard time understanding people who don't "get" the book, but I do understand (on an academic basis) WHY you don't. Myself, I love both the book and the movies for completely different reasons. I don't rank one above the other because they aren't the same experience at all.

[tasogare-n-hime.livejournal.com]

I kinda understand where you are coming from. I have to admit, at times I found LoTR a chore to read. I'm glad I got through them though because I ended up loving them as much as I love The Hobbit, and *shifty eyes* since I did finish them before I went to see the movies I got to be "that one person" and annoy the fuck out of my friends with "That's not what happened in the book." comments. XD I regret nothing.

[miakun.livejournal.com]

I've read the whole thing and his prose in The Hobbit is much more engaging than his prose in Lord of the Rings. It drags on, there's a song every other page, and some things are really obnoxious. I think it's one of the extremely rare moments where I like the movies better than the book. There is a fascinating amount of world building and research he put into them and the thoughtful deft touch there is amazing and should be noted, but the execution is lacking (which might have to do with there being so many details, because he did build this world, language, etc).

[alexiel-rieth.livejournal.com]

While I loved the books when I read them, I have to say that the movies are definitely much better. Even though there's still some stuff that I'm annoyed they threw out (scouring of the Shire being the main one).

[lit-wolf.livejournal.com]

OP, if you want to finish them and perhaps like them a bit better, may I suggest reading them while listening to the podcasts of the Tolkien Professor? I was part of his recorded undergraduate Tolkien class and I only finished the books because I was being graded on them. I did really enjoy them when I finished but it was Prof Olsen (the Tolkien Professor) who helped me to get through them.

Check him out here if you're curious: http://www.tolkienprofessor.com/index.html

[atanvarne-lj.livejournal.com]

I'm just going to leave this here...

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.

[(Anonymous)]

Not such an unpopular opinion, I think.
I don't know. I regularly watch the films, haven't reread the whole books in a while...but then I'll read a bit and be stunned by how much I love it. But yeah -not something I reread, even though I love it.

The Silmarillion on the other hand is beautiful and my life and HoME is my home.

[haleysings.livejournal.com]

The book is one of my favorite books ever, but there's parts that it really drags, so I can see someone thinking this. At least the movies are good, too (although I still ADORE the books).

...Still, the description of Minas Tirith, MY GOD. Six pages. SIX. PAGES. Just tell us it's a big, white city with a tall tower. THERE. DONE. Or at least spread out that information instead of giving it in one big clump, gosh!

[gs-disaronno.livejournal.com]

Don't worry Anon, I feel the same way. Tolkein definitely needed a better editor.

[othellia.livejournal.com]

I liked the Hobbit, but I was never able to get through the Lord of the Rings even though I've tried multiple times throughout my life, so I definitely understand how you feel OP.