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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-06-20 07:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1630 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1630 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 187 secrets from Secret Submission Post #233.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - take it to comments/wank elsewhere ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] unstoppablei.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

[identity profile] psycho-taryin.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I SERIOUSLY SHOUTED THAT AFTER REALIZING WHAT IT WAS

Please tell me there is a shirt of this somewhere. It's like the Delorean/Tardis crash one but BETTER.

[identity profile] unstoppablei.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
It comes from this: Image


Originally from here: http://shirozora.deviantart.com/art/That-s-MY-phone-box-143343709?q=gallery%3AShirozora%2F6839205&qo=15

:-)

[identity profile] psycho-taryin.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
And now not even Hussie will convince me this is not the absolute truth.

Thank you. I love you.

[identity profile] psycho-taryin.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
♥ Thank you!

(Anonymous) 2011-06-21 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Being in Fringe fandom, I spend a lot of time listening to people either:
A) Insist Anna Torv and Joshua Jackson belong together despite the fact that I'm not even sure they like each other in a friendly way.
OR
B) Complain that Peter and Olivia shouldn't be together because Josh Jackson is a dick sometimes. (Occasionally because they don't like Anna instead of Josh, but that's rare.)

I really don't get why people can't accept that a character is a fictional, separate construct that's just represented onscreen by the actor. The actor and the character are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-21 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm confused. You realize that RL != fiction, yet your friend's relationship has ruined fictional relationships for you? You made the correlation that they are not the same, so I don't get it. How would her one relationship matter? That's like saying one bad relationship experience with an asshole means all relationships are doomed. It's ridiculous because people are different and chances are (if you're smart) they won't be the same as that ex.

As for your friend. You said she's barely legal (I assume she's 18-19 then?). Basically she's old enough to make her own decisions. How about instead of being a judgey friend you be more supportive. She sounds like she's in the beginning stages where the relationship is new and exciting. Give your friend a bit more credit and let her make her own mistakes. Chime in if she says something that sounds REALLY sketchy, but refrain from rolling your eyes every time she mentions him. That just makes you look jealous (in her eyes). Whether that's the case or not.

You're over exaggerating. And yeah, you are being an arse of a friend right now.

[identity profile] ikumi-mimura.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck yeah, RA secret!

This strip is fantastic, it's like S.T.A.L.K.E.R meets the writing of Invader Zim. I love it so much.

[identity profile] khaliasama.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally not related to anything but...is that Kuwabara?

(Anonymous) 2011-06-21 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You sound more jealous than selfish, to be honest. I mean, you stated that you loved May/December relationships. If I was your friend and knew that, I would assume that you wouldn't mind being in one. I would also assume that you would be one of the few people who wouldn't judge the relationship and get it. I would expect you to be supportive. Which may be why she talks to you about it so much. And for you to say you think he's using her (whether he is or not) would ring in her ears that you're maybe jealous. I don't know what your situation is (if you're in a relationship or not), I'm only going off what you've said. I'm probably wrong, but it's not a bad idea to look at things from your friend's perspective.

[identity profile] khaliasama.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Armada secret <3 Congratulations!

(Anonymous) 2011-06-21 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe my fandoms just happen to have better fanart on Pixiv than on DA. Ever thought of that?

(Anonymous) 2011-06-21 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that age != maturity. Some of the most immature people I've met have been women in their 40s. And I've met some really mature 20-somethings. It depends on how someone grew up.

It also depends on where the age gap occurs. I would say that a relationship where one person is in their late-teens and the other past their 30s are less likely to work out than someone in their 30s with a person in their 50s. Only because it's more probable that someone in their 30s and 50s will have had more similar life experiences than someone in their late-teens and 30s.

I was in a long-term relationship with someone in their late-teens (who was mature for their age) while I was in my mid-20s. Not a huge age gap, but big enough. It started out fine because mentally we were on the same level. I wasn't using them (if anything I was being used) and enjoyed the company. Things got rocky because I had more experience and that didn't sit well. He was the one who isolated me and was controlling. So, it just goes to show that anyone can be an abusive asshole regardless of the age of the persons involved.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-21 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, so Robert E. Lee wasn't Korean either?

... Suddenly the Civil War is less confusing to me.

[identity profile] lilweirdomokyn.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I have no idea what this secret is talking about. The fandom is still really nice, at least around the main forum (http://movie9.proboards.com/index.cgi), and yeah, some of the older members have gone away, and I miss them, but there's lots of wonderful people that joined up recently. The movie is two years old, we should consider ourselves lucky that there are even enough people for there to even be a fandom for this lovely, silly movie.

Hell, two people who met through the 9 fandom when it started recently announced they were getting engaged and everyone is being super supportive of them. So, yeah, I have no idea where this person got the idea that the fandom is no longer a good community.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-21 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I think what other people are saying here is correct-- don't feel bad about your fandom. It's okay to like what other people don't like!

But that said... one of the reasons I personally am starting to feel a bit surly towards Homestuck is because of exactly the kind of mindset you say you're developing-- that you're afraid of talking to anybody not in the fandom.

Friends of mine who I thought I was really close to now no longer even give me the time of day unless A) Something funny happened in the Homestuck fandom and B) None of their Homestuck fans are online to talk to. Any and all conversations with them, when they happen at all (which is getting rarer and rarer as time goes on), automatically gravitate towards Homestuck, no matter how many times I say that I haven't read the comics and am not particularly interested in them. It is literally the only thing they are interested in talking about. I've been reduced to nothing but a cardboard cutout for them to squee at (not 'to', 'at') on occasion as a last resort, even though they know I have no idea what they're talking about. It kind of hurts, and it makes people feel resentful.

Don't be one of those people. If you withdraw into a fandom shell and just plain old not talk to anyone who's not interested in what you're interested in, even if it's because you're really just scared of being judged, it can and WILL make otherwise accepting, friendly people who might care about you think that you're just another raving fan, the kind that everyone seems to think the Homestuck fandom is made of entirely. Most people don't care if their pal is into something they think is silly or boring-- they only care if that's the only thing their pal ever seems to think or talk about.

Just talk to people. Unless you're one of the people who can't go for five minutes without talking about Homestuck even if the person you're talking to has never read it and doesn't want to (in which case I guess you'd probably BE happier just cutting off all contact with anyone not in the fandom), it's not like anyone's going to whip out their pitchfork at you for liking something they're not interested in. And if they DO judge you for being into a webcomic they don't like, they're not worth your time anyway.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-21 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
From this reply, I see you agree that fat people are gross and that being fat is not a good thing to be, so we are on the same page :)b

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
When people jump straight from shipping the characters to shipping the actors with nary a blink in between, I think it looks as though they have no grasp of the difference between fantasy and reality.

Doctor Who fandom, I'm looking at you.

[identity profile] leeleekins.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Would you look at that, a Kimi ni RAGE secret. I don't have problems with either one of them, I just have a problem with their relationship. It was absolute torture watching Misunderstanding the Anime. One reason I'm not too fond of shoujo most of the time...

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-06-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in Canada, and seeing that word in a fic makes me feel like one of the characters just up and SLAPPED the other. Outside of fic, I have NEVER personally seen that word used as anything other than a viciously hateful insult.

"Feared in North America" for good reason, I'd say. It's nothing but a slur to me.

[identity profile] thecupcake.livejournal.com 2011-06-22 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
It's from "An Ideal Husband," from around 1969.

[identity profile] thecupcake.livejournal.com 2011-06-22 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, unabashedly jealous over here.

Were I you, I would undoubtedly say

Image

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-06-22 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I'd rather a word that means "bitchy" "I despise you and wish you were dead," be used for a woman's lady parts than one that means "weak and cowardly."

<-- THAT'S why some of us disagree.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-22 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
This is really condescending:

Use your words. You're not in Kindergarten anymore, you can't get what you want by crying and pointing.

I don't care if yelling dissuades people if their abhorrent behavior. Sometimes, abhorrent behavior deserves being yelled at, and the victim is allowed the satisfaction of yelling, full stop. Your FOCUS being on the spiritual GROWTH of the person in the WRONG is gross. I don't care if they're a horrible member of KKK. I don't care if they've really truly misspoke. I'm not their fucking mother, I'm the person they were just harmful and offensive to, and I don't CARE to teach them a lesson and make sure it sticks. I'd never be able to care about anything ELSE ever again if I had to become the personal fucking mentor to every person who thought "CHING CHONG CHING CHONG XD" was the height of humor.

You do realize that in the time people spend writing up paragraphs and essays about how my motives are caused by me being brainwashed by society into seeing the white heterosexual male being lifted onto a pedestal and me being okay with this is just a function of growing up in this society (which, again, these people have no clue who I am or where I'm from, they don't know what society I'm part of)

And those essays? If they're not about YOU then you don't have to apply them to YOU. Do you think there's anywhere that it does apply? If yes, then the essay is valid. If you think they're wrong, either ~ignore them~ or create a discussion, but don't do it like the entire essay was a personal attack on ~you~ if they were just using the general ~you~ goddamn.

I find it really hilarious that you use this phrasing "We will fight back" - which doesn't exactly involve the polite, calm/OR IGNORING recourse you were saying should be applied to confronting ignorant, hurtful people. But "fighting back tooth and nail" is appropriate when it involves you, and someone calling you bigoted, because that is the real offense that needs to be addressed.

Also, I have been dogpiled online multiple times, and no, it wasn't pleasant. Two of the times made me flounce from two different communities, in retrospect I realize I was wrong in once case, but it was absolutely harmless in the other. So no, I don't think being "dogpiled" by SJers is pleasant, or always in the right. But the amount of BAWING I see over this is ridiculous. Absolutely fucking ridiculous. I haven't seen this much childish sobbing since working at a daycare. "THEY SAID I HAD A BOOGER BRAIN BAWW" Do you have a booger brain? No? Okay then.

(Anonymous) 2011-06-22 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
obvious troll is obvious

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