[ SECRET POST #179 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #179 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 82 secrets from Secret Submission Post #026.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 ] broken links, [ 1 2 ] not!secrets, [ 1 ] not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, July 4th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

25 - Missed the wank, but so what?

It's just that I love it very much when people start claiming (not in the secret, but in the posts here) that CFUD and Island people are a bunch of elitist. Because, hating on all the players of a RP just because they belong in said RP isn't being an elitist asshat at all, nope. :)

[sohmamon.livejournal.com]

Dear anonymous, I love you.

[superheroine]

7. I concur. I LOVE that pairing, but when people actually SERIOUSLY take it as a woobie i-love-you thing where Orihime suddenly forgets Ichigo and loevloevleovs Ulquiorra, I get weirded out. He threatened to kill her friends, and while he seems a lot more gentle to her than others - he doesn't wear his sword around her and he's polite - he still THREATENED TO KILL HER FRIENDS. Holy shit, it's a "bad touch" pairing more than anything. She does not love him, and we have NO indication that he sees her as anything more than a captive.

23. You have my sympathy. I ship Orihime with a lot of people, and the IchiHime faction is by far the worst of the lot. Uggh.

Personally, I don't know how anyone could look at it and think Orihime is a vapid slut. Hell, I don't think she has much, if any at all, sexual urges towards Ichigo. The closest thing she's ever said about his physical appearance is that she likes his face.

I don't know why they even get pissy about Ichigo - he doesn't seem to have any romantic attachment to her at all. It was even implied by Grimmjow that Ichigo didn't even go to Hueco Mundo JUST to save her, or even that she was his number one reason. Why do they feel threatened by it when Ichigo himself doesn't care? When it doesn't seem like it'll happen in canon anyway? I'm much more inclined to believe that Kubo would head towards IchiRuki, if he was heading anywhere romantic with Ichigo.

[(Anonymous)]

I use to browse campfuckudie constantly because of its A+ material, but then everything kind of went downhill when 4chan memes were introduced. Now you can't see a single thread without an influx of /b/ inside jokes. I'm completely disregarding the 'The jokes are only in the OOC comm!' argument because its irrelevant considering I haven't seen a single thread without spotting several of them.

Don't get me wrong--I'm a regular on 4chan, but jesus. I miss all the originality of cfud. I also miss the anonymity of 4chan, but all good things come to an end. The irony is that the original lurkers of /b/ (the people who created the empire!!11 as we all know it) can't stand roleplayers.

I know, this comment will be go unheeded or earn a 'cry moar' because woe, I'm totally *~bashing your RP and members~* when in reality I'm speaking my opinion.

[sohmamon.livejournal.com]

Speaking as a CFUD player, I see no reason to disregard your comment. There are a lot of 4chan references in the game, and personally I don't get them because. . . I don't go to 4chan! Never have. I don't have a problem with people who do, but it's not my cuppa tea.

I tend to figure it's just the latest trendy thing, you know what I mean? Eventually, it'll go away. It's either that or I'll just have to sit in my corner without understanding the jokes.

[lexicalcrow]

12. Just go for it. The ego-stroking is so worth it.

16. YAY! NCIS! <3 :D

[klytaemnestra.livejournal.com]

7. I don't get why people want to consider that canon. Orihime loves Ichigo even if it is one-sided -- everyone wants Ichigo to end up with someone, Ichigo doesn't have time to end up with someone. That's not the point of the manga -- she wouldn't suddenly have true love for an Espada who had threatened everyone she loves. I love Orihime for her resolve in the whole issue, because of her love for her friends she'd sacrifice herself. I wish people could leave pairing wars out of that. So you think she should get it on with Ulquiorra, great. Just don't pretend that it's canon when it's not.

9. I don't understand why fanartists should care anyway. I remember seeing rather wellknown artist on dA have all these people come running to her to let her know how someone was making icons out of her fanart and how they had demanded the person take it down because it was this girl's fanart ... when they weren't doing anything nor did the fanartist say anything herself to the icon makers. I've had people make icons out of my fanart. It is not a big deal. Sure I'd prefer if they credited the art back to me, but they really aren't hurting anything one way or another.

19. Ehehe, James. Yeah, I'm the biggest Bond fangirl. Hotness.

[affection.livejournal.com]

17. TONKS. TONKS TONKS TONKS. ♥

24. I don't even know you, so why should I care?

Nope, I don't.

[luisa-f.livejournal.com]

7. There are times when I see people who absolutely hate Orihime's guts being all fangirly and fake abbout this ship I feel like telling them to fuck off, WTF?!, what are you doing shipping a pairing if you hate one half of it?, sometimes this seems like just a device to keep Orihime away from Ichigo. Sorry to any legitimate Orihime/Ulquiorra shippers out there, but that's how it seems to me.

17. She looks so cool.

23. All the shit H/Hr shippers were put through was what made me take a step back from the HP fandom, when H/G shippers talk about Harmonians batshittery it makes me laugh because as a non-shipper I got shit from all sides, but the ones that acted truly scary where the H/G shippers [they still do, just because your ship is canon it doesn't make you any less of a fucktart].

All the Orihime bashing is ridiculous, there is Rukia bashing too, but it's so common in all fandoms, when a guy is in the middle one side bashes the female character of the opposing ship, it's the way it goes always. I' tired of it, so I just stay away from fandom, specially the shippers.

[ouo]

8. I honestly couldn't tell what was happening in that picture until I read the secret. D:

9. I always figured that it was because official images aren't necessary to credit because they're generally easy to find, but it's nearly impossible to trace the source of fanart from an icon. (That is, if you see an icon that is obviously from an official image, you'll know where it came from, so credit isn't really necessary. If you see an icon made from fanart, you probably won't know the source unless you ask -- and even then, the icon maker may not know.)

I don't see the problem if you credit the original fanartist, thought.

18. Oooh, it moves! < /useless commenting>

[luzerna.livejournal.com]

7. Orihime is far from in love; she punched him in the face for gods' sakes. Orihime punched him in the face. Normally she wouldn't hurt a fly. I like the pairing one-sided though, just like I like my Ichigo/Orihime. Ulqui has a tender spot for her, I think.

12. when in doubt... use a sockpuppet. =D Except if you're in a flamewar. Then it's just dirty tactics.

23. You can't get any better than Orihime. =(

Not!secret 2 made me lol.

2,15

[author-by-night.livejournal.com]

2. You are a Snape Threadder on SQ, aren't you? ;)

About the actual secret, to be fair, some would say thinkng Snape is going to save the day would be delusional. I personally think that at least Snape ending up as DD's man is possible, and that H/Hr is officially impossible. But I'm just saying. ;)

15. Agreed. I don't mind if people do fandom shipping, but they are not canon. And I can't even read it in fic - hello, the guy killed his father?

Re: 2,15

[(Anonymous)]

I just added the part about Snape for the lulz - my point was that it shouldn't matter about shipping and I will ROFL at those who think the book is terrible because of the final pairings!

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[metinkgb.livejournal.com]

... Sucks when I'm late to the party.

Re: 25.

[gilgrado.livejournal.com]

Ain't you glad you're not sucking something else.

[snarky-kat.livejournal.com]

17. I still can't stand her with Remus, but wow. I'd totally hit that.

23. The lack of love for this pairing bums me right out. I mean, fine you can like something else, but don't go hating just because someone else is in the picture. Shippers scare me.

[misteline.livejournal.com]

7. Whut? xD Most people don't think they're going to be canon or, for that matter, currently are. Relax. A lot of people are also probably joking with the arguments as well. Don't bother taking them seriously. My advice to you is to just ignore the things you don't like to read about/see. Sure, I won't deny the fact that there's SOMETHING developing between those two, but I won't jump the boat and proclaim that it's LOVE either. Which it most likely, probably isn't at this time. We're not Kubo Tite, so all we really have are speculations. Some people even consider UlquiHime a crack pairing. UH. I'm not a fan of rape fics, but they're all over fandom. D: Not just UlquiHime. Pathetic? Are you calling the whole fandom pathetic? Or just the people who ship because they can't ship her with Ichigo?
23. Agreed so much. Orihime♥
26. ♥ ME KNOWS HOW YOU FEEL.

[nightfalltwen.livejournal.com]

2. Ahahahah You think book seven will end it? So naive...

[degrees.livejournal.com]

...

Why did 21 not get more love or wank or anything whatsoever? I was looking forward to hearing agreeing or opposing opinions! And I've been let down. Woe.

For the record, I agree with you, secret maker. I agree hardcore.

[halcyonjazz.livejournal.com]

Seriously! I'm kind of surprised that secret went ignored too.

SECONDING AGREEMENT, TWO THUMBS UP.

7, 15, 23:

[fishie]

IAWTC.

7. No shit, right? I mean, I like the vibe the two of them have, but it's not mutual, consensual, or canon in any way. Good Lord, she loves Ichigo and Ulquiorra doesn't discernably love at all. Quit trying to force stupid 'OTPs.'

15. I don't ship it, personally, but I'm glad to see someone who does, and who also has sense. The first time I saw 'Mylar' in the fandom, I was a little stunned. As much as I shouldn't have been (people do that in every fandom, all the time; hate = love, trying to kill someone means you want them in bed), I was totally amazed that people would even try that. Jesus.

23. You know, I'm an IchiRuki 'shipper. You know what else? Orihime loves Ichigo. She'd do damn near anything for him, whether or not he feels the same way (and it's hard to say if he does or not). She's not vapid, not a slut, and she certainly deserves to be with Ichigo as much as Rukia does. To say that Ichigo deserves better is ridiculous — what's better than unconditional love without expectations?

Number 25

[gilgrado.livejournal.com]

I don't care who you are or why you made this, but I will tell you to please go crawl back to your mom's vagina and die there.

I'm pathetic half the time but I didn't make that banner so people can wave it around and make of the RP I made it for. As much as I want to respect other people's opinions on things like these, I can't bring myself to in this instance.

That said, I hope you live a long happy life. Fucker.

Oh, and I think really highly of you right now - as a moron.

Re: Number 25

[gilgrado.livejournal.com]

OH HAY I TYPOED 8D

[chelonianmobile.livejournal.com]

#6 - what's the song called? I'm curious.

Eh. I did a fanart involving lyrics from Nine Inch Nails' "Somewhat Damaged", which is nearly as bad.

25

[friendshipbeam.livejournal.com]

Oh, you're from that ripoff game?

Re: 25

[(Anonymous)]

You should think before you talk.

[master-valeth.livejournal.com]

I'll join the people SQUEEING over a sneak glimpse of Tonks at secret number seventeen.

Though the Remus/Tonks stuff later ... wtf? @_@ I never saw it coming.

[lacus.livejournal.com]

25. Hooray for sweeping generalization!

26. Rock on. \m/

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[(Anonymous)]

oshi, missed the wank.

Seeing so many people in games like that mostly just disappoints me. Let me explain before someone tries ripping me a new asshole -

Number one, I understand that easy games like that are more popular than ones that take more effort, but seeing those sorts of numbers in crack games and not 'serious' ones is a downer.

Number two, I see really good RPers in crack games for small or dying fandoms, but never see them in serious games! I know people have different preferences, or might be too busy for a serious game, but damn.

Re: 25

[gilgrado.livejournal.com]

As a player from Island, and as someone who has contemplated playing in serious boards for a while now, here's a few cents of thought:

One reason why playing in crack RPs is easy for small/obscure fandoms is because it helps gain exposure. When I picked up Giovanni in Island I was the only one who ever heard of Dogs at the time - and then something clicked, and suddenly we had the whole cast (pretty much) and now most of the players either follow Dogs, read it up, are members of the LJ comm or are just plain spreading the word. It helps tiny fandoms not get obscure because of the very "crack" essence of it keeps the "HEY READ THIS" sentiments from getting weighed down by seriousness.

Serious RPs require a lot of effort, and effort I'm willing to give, but that would also mean that I'd have to plump very deeply into characterization and stuff and so much more - make the character, in essence, real - that sometimes puts off on the whole "fun" aspect. And some of us don't have the time and resource to play any more than lightweight, lightbrain RPing. So yes, you're right, some RPers don't have the time, and it also may relate to preference, but what shouldn't be a downer is that with a serious RP you get players who really want to play that way, not just passer-by player who applied for the hell of it, got in and then left.

Which is sometimes a reason for mockery - we get a we've been wanting, and then the player drops after a week because they applied on a whim.

That said... I've run out of ending lines, yeah, I'm leaving this as it is.

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[halcyonjazz.livejournal.com]

Publishers and companies holding the rights to the images of the series they own don't shut down or cancel the series to prevent image distrubution.

Japanese fanartists do.

That's the difference.

When people use official works it has a wide-spread recognition that acts like free advertizement, while conversely, if someone uses fanart (which a lot of the time goes uncredited), the artist is left unnamed and unknown. Especially when I think people get it from 4chan rather than from the artist's site which doesn't help counteracting the anonymity of it.

Not to mention that J-artists put EXPLICIT DISCLAIMERS (in english!) on their sites to NOT TAKE IMAGES but it virtually goes ignored. If an English artist were to explicitly make that rule known I bet you more people would respect it than one would with a Japanese one. Since I think the behavior is if it were an English artist, one wouldn't hesitate to send a quick email (because they KNOW the language) asking if they could use their art, but if it were a Japanese artist they just skip that step. And that's the step that pisses the artists off.

It's more about etiquette rather than internet morality. Personally I think using fanart without permission and pirating music are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BALLPARKS so that comparison fails.

Re: 9.

[powercorrupts.livejournal.com]

Sadly, a lot of people do skip that step even for english language artists. I often see art from deviantART in the "I just got it from 4chan~". I think, reading the comments on here, that most people just don't believe that fanartists have the right to set restrictions on fanart.

[(Anonymous)]

9. Yeah, nevermind that iconists just take fanart and slap on some Photoshop effects. Yeah, the fanartists are the bad people here for wanting to protect their work -_-

Don't compare it to music piracy in an effort to make it seem "not that bad." And as for those artists saying, "Well I don't mind when someone steals my work!" Do you think that every damn artist on the internet feels the same way as you? I've talked to plenty about the issue. Some say they don't care, some are deeply hurt by fanart theft. Don't think that your one opinion on the matter accounts for the opinion of EVERY artist or that it should, even. That's like saying, "Well, since I don't mind having my fanart stolen and I'm an artist, I don't see why any other artist should mind." And that reasoning is pretty dumb, IMO D:

But really, what pisses me off most about people making fanart out of icons is that they don't credit. And then they defend themselves by saying, "Well, as long as the iconist credits..." Who the hell credits?! I rarely see it. People are too fucking lazy to. It's as simple as asking a friend or making a post and asking, "Anyone know the site for this fanart..."

That's not advertising for the artist. That's just plain theft. And it's frustrating because I'd love to see the site where the art came from. If fanart theft led to me finding more fanart sites, I think I'd have a much better opinion of it.

I wasn't gonna post this anon, but I have friends in one of my fandoms that does it, and I know how belligerent they get when people say it's bad D:

13. Hee hee, I think I know who you are. But then again... maybe not.

25. Hmmm... it kind of disturbs me how CFUD seems to EAT LIVES (to the point that people stop using their regular LJs, wtf >.>;;) But I've found amusement while reading it, so I can't say I hate it. As for crack RPs taking less effort than serious RPs, that is a LIE. In many cases, it's harder to portray a character in a crack environment than it is in a serious one (since in most games, anime, shows, etc. the characters find themselves in serious situations most of the time).

[serraduchi.livejournal.com]

#1. YES.