[ SECRET POST #1839 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1839 ⌋


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Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 156 secrets from Secret Submission Post #263.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[dragonsofeden.livejournal.com]

And the original :)

[gabzillaz.livejournal.com]

I'm almost 100% sure it would :/

[dinerstate.livejournal.com]

THIS SECRET CONTAINS GUSTAVE CAILLEBOTTE AND THEREFORE I LOVE IT AND YOU OP. <3 And I bet your fics are fantastic! Keep writing!

[unicornherds.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't have been nearly as interested. In fact, the idea of it being two dudes actually makes me a bit sad.

[(Anonymous)]

I liked Looney Tunes better when they were trying to violently murder each other.

[(Anonymous)]

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT AND WHY ARE THEY CALLING IT LOLA?
It just...looks so weird. And that's Lola?

[raykat.livejournal.com]

Good luck and well wishes, OP. I hope everything turns out well. :)

[folikon.livejournal.com]

(http://vdexproject.net/user.php?user=1493)

[(Anonymous)]

Lol at the people jumping to conclusions in this thread. I'd be willing to bet it isn't the design that the OP has problems with, but the fact that Lola is now an obsessive creepy stalker with no personality outside her love for Bugs.

[angelus7988.livejournal.com]

The funny thing about Batman is that one can argue that he errs too much in the opposite direction. When you're dealing with homicidal psychopaths who cannot be contained by prisons or psychiatric facilities and will kill again, the ethics get a whole lot more complicated. It is arguable that the moral choice in that scenario would be to kill the Joker.

[joltyness.livejournal.com]

lol'd

[(Anonymous)]

Also remember that Hero TV was able to help criminals escape, in order to profit from Heros trying to stop them.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god I could not agree with you more, OP. I understand that the BBC version is more "accurate", but it just isn't as much FUN.

[(Anonymous)]

fuck the haters, man. i love the new show and the new psychotic lola. mostly for her voice and excellent comedic timing.

[omorka.livejournal.com]

I'm fat and ugly, and my husband, my boyfriend, my fuckbuddy, and my maybe-almost-sorta-not-quite-girlfriend are all quite supportive of my anime-watching. Then again, two of those are far more into it than I am.

[lolofielding.livejournal.com]

OF ALL TIME!!!

[(Anonymous)]

Not a huge difference from Space Jam where she existed solely to become Bug's love interest (and got together after being saved by him, of course).

[loracarol.livejournal.com]

OHMIGODTHIS IS ADORABLE!

Thank you for sharing~ ♥

[(Anonymous)]

IDK it's a pretty odd complaint to make, considering everyone in the new show has been "chibi-fied" and simplified.

[boxlunch33.livejournal.com]

I can see how the depiction of a female being stalker-like and obsessed could be harmful, and honestly I usually don't go for those kinds of characters. However, I disagree when people say that the way the new Lola is depicted is harmful. Bugs is still attracted to her on some level, for the most part she's generally fairly nice, and a lot of her tactics are so ridiculous and over the top ala I Love Lucy that I can't take them seriously. It doesn't come across to me as 'lol women, amirite?' - and I'm usually the first to get offended at that business - but rather 'wow, that specific person is really crazy.' Like all the other characters. It's not like Looney Tunes has ever been made up of positive role models...to be honest it was its biting humor that made it standout from the rest. Not to mention, animators who grew up on the classic Looney Tunes have never been fond of Lola. I'm not surprised that they'd want to flip her completely upside down.

Aren't over-the-top tomboys usually the ones that always get played for laughs though? Like Toph from Avatar? Girls who are more like boys are allowed to be funny, but feminine girls aren't allowed to be? The stereotype that I always found hurtful was that pretty, feminine women aren't funny, that comedy on women is unattractive. People always joke about female stand-up comedians being unattractive. For me personally I find it refreshing when a character in a skirt can be just as funny as a guy in pants.

I do agree that the female stalker archetype is played out too much, but I personally am not bothered by the way it's played out here. Coming from another source, maybe, I would have been offended. If this was a character who was established, well-rounded, and never exhibited stalker-like behavior before, yes, I'd be offended. To me though Lola never had a character to ruin in the first place, they didn't give her one in the first place. If they weren't going to devote the time to flesh her out in Space Jam, why have her there at all? People talk about her being this strong character, and yet she goes from scoffing at Bugs to swooning over him after he rescues her. Something everyone always gets sore about in a Disney movie, but not here for some reason. Also, the original characters also only had a brief amount of time to show who they were, their cartoons were only five to eight minutes long, yet even the characters that only show up in maybe three cartoons were established instantly. I just didn't get that with Lola.

[flowerylook.livejournal.com]

There would have been a bigger fandom if the show wasn't filled with (recycled animation) flashbacks. You know something is wrong when there is a 3-minute-long flashback to the first episode... in the second fucking episode!

[rebness.livejournal.com]

No, I agree with you. I see more of a connection between the films and the books than the TV series and the books.

[(Anonymous)]

She's even a worse rapist than Pepe...

[(Anonymous)]

Eww, I don't like the art. Although I have to say Lola looks a teensy bit better in the actual show than in the secret, her fur looks less orange.

[boxlunch33.livejournal.com]

I agree that the picture above lacks appeal, but that's not how she's drawn in the show really. That image is from promotional material used at the very beginning before the show was released. The designs have since been refined over time and yeah, I do think they look better in motion. Maybe people here were only complaining about the physical design, but the way a lot of these comments were phrased gave me the impression that Lola had been ruined from the inside out. I'd also be pretty surprised if OP was complaining about the design only.