[ SECRET POST #1979 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1979 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i49.tinypic.com/10ye5y1.png

[(Anonymous)]

I don't hate Tenlin perse, but I definitely hate it when people slut-shame Pema. I mean, Tenzin said it himself. Lin and he were growing apart. And frankly, looking at how different their personalities are, that make sense. Don't me wrong, it seems likely the breakup was messy, and I don't expect Lin to LIKE Pema, but maybe we could give everyone involved the benefit of the doubt and assume they are grown people. Tenzin fell out of love with Lin and/or decided their relationship would no longer work, and when Pema confessed to him, he went for it, and found love again. There is nothing wrong with that, and it would certainly be better than staying in a dysfunctional relationship with Lin.

[othellia]

All of this. Right here.

[(Anonymous)]

Pema's POV made it seem as if Tenzin was still in love with Lin when she went after him.

Idk, I'm just assuming that Tenzin/Lin was toxic and frequently on/off or else I can't ship Pema/Tenzin. I would like if it wasn't as messy as Pema/Lin made it sound.

[chanterofelegies]

This. All of this.

[elialshadowpine]

Yes, this! I would kinda love to see what happened between Tenzin and Lin... in part, because they are so different and seeing the sparks fly would be amazing.

I think, though, that Tenzin and Pema have a much healthier relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

I try to ignore those people. Pema didn't "steal" anyone, Tenzin decided on his own what he wanted to do.

That said, even though I don't ship Tenzin/Lin, I can't say I'm a huge fan of Tenzin/Pema (but I love their kids). I don't hate it, I've just never been fond of large age gaps, and part of me worries that Tenzin only went with Pema because she was still young enough to have children. Because if he didn't produce any airbending kids, they really WOULD die out.

[insanenoodlyguy]

It's gotta be hard for a guy when his ability to land a girl becomes a responsibility to an entire group.

But something tells me it was a bit more then "You, you can give me babies!"

[natural_blue_26.livejournal.com]

Was it ever hinted at why Tenzin waited so long to get married/have kids? Now I'm curious...

[(Anonymous)]

Avatar fandom is just so classy.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, I didn't think that badly of Pema until I remembered that she told Korra (and her daughters) that its okay to confess to an already taken man. I personally disagree with that. She had no idea who Mako and Asami were and what their relationship was like or even if Mako and Korra had chemistry. She just told her to do it. As a woman, I personally can't like another woman like that sorry. It's pitting women against each other for another man.

IMO OP, it's not slut-shaming. I'm just against how normal LoK (and society) tries to make cheating/being mentally checked out of relationship look.

[(Anonymous)]

This. That was a horrible advice imo.

..Now why do I have a feeling that she did the same with Lin and Tenzin..

[kaileighblue]

It wasn't bad advice. Korra just didn't know how to execute it well.

It's no different than the nice guy situation. You may think you're nice to a girl but if she doesn't know you're interested you'll always just be the friend.

It really seemed like Korra was looking for someone to tell her it was OK to attack love like she does with everything else in life; Headfirst without thinking.

If Lin and Tenzin's relationship was good it shouldn't have been so easy for someone to break it apart. Unluckily for Korra, Mako isn't easily swayed.

[elaminator]

Arg, those comments!

(TBH I don't watch this show, and only came here to say the art is gorgeous. Yep...sexy.)

[castorochiaro]

See, I'm not even a big fan of Pema and I hardly think she STOLE Tenzin. Dunno why I don't care for her, I just find something about her off-putting.

But she and Tenzin are obviously happy together, and while he still cares for Lin, the feelings are no longer romantic. It happens.

[(Anonymous)]

On one hand, I agree with you OP. I don't hate the ship, but by the same token, I dislike the people who try to bash Pema. I think she's awesome, particularly since she's got 3 kids who are constantly [or so it seems] bending around her and being rambunctious as anything and she still manages to be amazingly nice, and cheerful. That can't be easy, and I admire her for it.

On the other hand? I really don't like the advice she gave Korra. Yes, Tenzin did say that he and Lin's relationship was already ending before Pema, so she didn't exactly 'steal' him...But that doesn't change the fact that she's sending the message that it's okay to chase after a taken man if you like him enough. I want to think it's just that she was young, and didn't think what she was doing through enough before doing that...but the fact she's advising other people to do the same makes me hesitate. So, on that side, for me, it's not thinking she's a slut or what not, but the fact she's basically saying it's 'okay' not to respect other people's relationships that I don't like.

tl;dr: I agree with you, mostly, but I can see where the people saying what Pema did was wrong are coming from [provided it's not 'OMG, she's a slut!!1!' type reasoning]

[(Anonymous)]

This, I think Pema is a bit naive and a romantic idealist who, because things worked perfectly for her and Tenzin, believes the same advice will work just as well for everyone else. She probably hadn't considered the ways it could (and did) go wrong for Korra.

[angrymermaids]

I've never heard people actually say any of this. Is it the fanbrats on Tumblr? Because I stay faaaaar away from that shit.

My theory is that they just don't like it when people are in happy, committed, drama-free relationships. Not even going to bother making sense of that.

[kaileighblue]

I really wish they didn't go there. The fact that they have kids and she's pregnant just makes me angry that people think they should break up because they used to be together. People break up. They move on. let them.

[streetcake]

Yeah, I hate how casually people will make comments like "We all know Pema is a homewrecker, but we love her anyway, tee hee!" :\

I think her advice to Korra was bad though. I think in Pema's situation she could clearly see that Tenzin wasn't happy in his current relationship and possibly knew he had feelings for her as well, but she doesn't know anything about the guy Korra likes.

All it did was justify in Korra's mind her decision to confess to and kiss Mako the moment he said he was confused. And I'm not appreciating the fuckup of a love triangle going on now because of that decision, especially since Asami is having to learn about these things from other people and not from her own fucking boyfriend.

[milsie]

A lot of fans in Avatar fandom are stupid, OP. They say things on a simplistically stupid level. Though I have to say, I kind of raised my brow when Pema said "I couldn't stand to see him keep going out with the wrong girl" when I think it would've sounded less entitled if she said "another girl" but when you get in love, you can get possessive like that. Its mainly because the girls in this fandom put themselves in the role of characters like Korra and Tolin and feel like they are personally NTR'd when Mako starts to take a liking to Asami and the like. Also, Tolin and Tenzin have a great chemistry, which doesn't help the situation at all.

[gabzillaz]

I ship the hell out of it (what is it with me an earthbende/airbender ships?) but I have nothing against Pema.

[(Anonymous)]

I love Lin to pieces, she's my favorite character in LoK by far, but Tenzin and Pema's relationship is cute, their kids are adorable, and Tenzin himself said that his relationship with Lin was fading when Pema came along, so meh. Fandom will be stupid, and sadly, there isn't anything you can do about it but try to ignore it.

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, the idea that Mako and Tenzin are delicate little butterflies that need to be protected from the idea that another girl likes them lest she rip them from their true love's arms is gross. Normal, adult people discuss their feelings and deal with them. If I thought my husband was so easily swayed by a profession of love from someone else, I'd pack for him; he's not my property nor do I want him in my life if it's not where he really wants to be.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, to be fair, you're judging a pairing because of the fanbase, not the actual pairing. I like Tenzin/Lin, but I also like Tenzin/Pema and Pema herself-- I don't think any type of slut-shaming of the 'other guy/girl' in a love triangle is valid.