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OP: Yellow is never a good idea.
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(Anonymous) 2012-06-03 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)because meta!Misha IS dead, so
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I love Castiel a whole bunch, and I'm glad that they brought him back, if only as an additional foil because the Sam'n'Dean show gets really old, really fast these days.
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For me, it's not just that Castiel is an interesting character, it's that he tends to pop up when the story gets interesting. Some people prefer the episodes where it's just the brothers and the evil of the week, I like the arcs and all the big revelations. At least, I like them when they're done well.
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Dislike the character all you like, that's absolutely fine. You don't even need to give a reason, we all have different tastes, it's your prerogative! But the second you say stuff like, "oh he's only there because FANSERVICE!!!" or he has "no story", lol I'm sorry were we even watching the same show?
And I don't see how this is hard to understand, but at least half the reason people were so pissed off about him being killed off in 7.2? Was because they killed him half way through his story. No resolution, no send-off or goodbye. Just gone. There's a reason season 7 only finally started to pick up when he came back.
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Also, your picture is very hard to read. I only caught every-other word, practically.
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Probably shouldn't be commenting as I'm almost a whole season behind but...I've never been a big fan either, OP. That said I do realize the show needs secondary characters so from that standpoint, I can understand them not wanting to permanently off him. And yes, the fandom is in love with him too, so that certainly doesn't hurt, but TPTB probably have reasons beyond that for keeping him around.
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Yet S7 kind of sucked all around, but especially on the Sam and Dean front. Castiel being gone didn't help anything at all. The show skipped them and focused on Bobby instead for the emotional development and character exploration.
And there's no reason to keep him around because his storylines are all used up? Um, okay, whatever. Sam doesn't have a storyline anymore either, not since the Hallucifer thing was resolved, and Dean hasn't had a major storyline in years unless you count Lisa and Ben. Except wait, now Dean's in Purgatory with Cas and Sam is desperate to rescue them. So, huh. Actually ALL of them have a storyline. Because that's how multiseasonal shows work - one storyline is resolved and another one is begun.
Castiel isn't my favorite character but I like him well enough, especially if he's being a bit shady or presumptuous. I don't like his current portrayal at all, but I don't watch for him anyway so all I can do is hope that it's only a temporary characterization that he'll outgrow sooner rather than later. I watch for Sam and Dean and continued watching for them while Cas was gone and would continue to watch for them if Cas were killed off permanently. But the show just sucks when it's only Sam and Dean. They're both so tired and depressed and worn down, having other characters to bounce off of helps both of them.
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(Anonymous) 2012-06-03 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)Of course the PTB are going to keep a character that fans like, they are selling a product and they want their customers to keep coming back. WHY IS THIS SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND?
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(Anonymous) 2012-06-03 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)2. I hated Castiel from the beginning and he was one of the biggest reasons I stopped watching. Really, the whole angels vs demons thing got incredibly lame after a while. The actor seems like a nice dude but he's not very good at acting and Castiel just can't carry the show like that.
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And even if they only brought him back because of his fans, it should be a testament to how strongly the fans like his character. You don't get that many people loving you by being bland and not contributing anything to the show.
Also, that's Misha. Maybe watching the show enough to know the difference would help to see all of the truly outstanding moments Cas has had throughout it. He's a very layered and complex character, even if they've been doing stupid things to him since they brought him back.
Personally, I don't think Misha is capable of playing a bland character. He's a tremendous actor.
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(Anonymous) 2012-06-04 02:53 am (UTC)(link)"I hate Castiel/Misha because he interferes with Wincest/J2 and/or it pisses me off that Sam/Jared is now the 3RD most popular character/actor on the show."
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It's hard for me to picture someone seeing Castiel as useless and bland. Before he showed up, I enjoyed the show, but once he appeared the show had so much more depth. He's the reason I joined fandom. I love that character and it amazes me I could love a fictional character so much. But never mind me, Castiel touched A LOT of people, obviously, that's why the fans LOVE him and logically that couldn't be possible if he was truly useless and bland.
I think Jensen and Jared and other people involved with the show also wanted Castiel back, not just the "fans".
I guess I got lucky when I hated Bela. She got killed off and never came back.