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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-08 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2106 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
How about "just for the sake of doing nice things?"

Really, this secret sounds like you're the type who is "nice" for the sole purpose of being recognized as a nice person, not because you actually enjoy being nice.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This is going to sound really defensive, but I'm angry at someone requesting I spend hours of my time doing something for them for free, and then stealing it and claiming they did all the work. I think that's allowed. I do this because it feels good to do nice things for people, and at the time, I thought I was really making someone happy. But instances like this just make me feel really shitty and wonder why I bother, a little.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right, it does sound defensive. And idiotic. If it made the other person happy, why does it matter that they posted it and claimed credit for it? Especially when the song isn't even yours.

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[personal profile] wauwy 2012-10-09 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
But instances like this just make me feel really shitty and wonder why I bother, a little.

You sound (a) passive-aggressive as hell and like (b) people take advantage of you on the regular and that (c) you need to grow a spine. Stop jumping to "do things for people" because you think it will make them like you. If people do something that makes you angry or hurt, confront them instead of acting ike everything's cool and then dragging your feet on the walk home from school.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-08 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I do nice things because it makes me happy. But I'd still be a little annoyed if someone took my work and put it up not just without credit but claiming it as their own. And if I kept doing nice things for people and the result kept being that? Yeah, I'd stop doing nice things for them.

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
You can enjoy the act of being nice, but still hate it when someone abuses your kindness.

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Balanced reciprocity is pretty much hardwired into our brains. We've evolved to be cooperative, but we've also evolved to have negative emotional reactions to signs of antisocial behavior. Of which ingratitude is a prime example.

In any case, your logic is flawed. One can enjoy the act of being nice for its own sake and still be hurt by ingratitude. And one can be nice for the sake of "looking nice" without being bothered by ingratitude.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like exactly the kind of person who would do things like op described. Selfish little piece of shit.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry that happened to you, OP. That's a really shitty thing to do. I hope you won't stop doing nice things. Not everyone's an asshole, I swear.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm definitely calmer than when I first found out even if I'm still disappointed. I've decided to keep doing it because I really love to. There's just that kind of wary feeling now like you're never sure whether someone else you're helping is going to pull that kind of thing or not, and probably even that will pass eventually. I do genuinely believe that most people are coming from a genuine place, it just hit me out of left field.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Wondering: does transcribing in this case also mean some amount of translation? (The reference to the transcription as an "arrangement" is confusing me a bit.)

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, rather I took a pop/rock song and arranged it for a solo instrumental. By default that sort of thing requires some arranging because it's not written to be that way.

Sorry for the confusion.

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Hey man, I'm sorry that happened to you. That really sucks.

On the bright side, this secret inexplicably pulled a truly ridiculous troll out of the dungeon and caused some of the best wank I've seen here in ages.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I guess there's a silver lining to everything???

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I expected it from the asexuality secret. But when I scrolled and saw this, I just went wat.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
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Wasn't expecting it, but that I AM AN ASSHOLE AND I WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD isn't too bad as far as f!s trolls go.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry the person you did a favor for was an ass about it, OP. I hope you can keep doing favors for people who're grateful for it in the future.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
The troll in this post must be the douchebag friend justifying her/his actions.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
That was my thought too!

OP, I think anyone with any sense will get where you're coming from. You put in a lot of hard work on transcribing the entire song, and someone else took credit for it. That's not cool at all. If that person asks you for any more favours, show 'em the door.
ariakas: (man walks on fucking moon)

[personal profile] ariakas 2012-10-09 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Why is everyone in this thread posting anon o_O

You know you can get people kicked off websites for that right? Including Deviantart? If you have some way to prove that you made it, just send it to the mods. I've seen plenty of people tossed for claiming they drew Japanese fanart, and I've had someone kicked off a comm for taking credit for a translation of mine. Just get them thrown out before they do it to someone else.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-10 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
If you don't mind, could you explain how you've had someone kicked off a com for credit of a translation of yours?

I'm in a similar situation. I became friends with someone via tumblr, and they asked me to translate several pages of doujin for them (3 works in total and a few comics) and posted my translations to an LJ comm, saying it's theirs. When I asked them about it, they stopped talking to me. I have emails and things from them, but that's about it.

I'm honestly more offended over the fact that they just stopped talking to me, and really hurt over it.

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[personal profile] wauwy 2012-10-09 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
... transcribed... an anime song?

Don't get me wrong, I guess it's kind of rude that they took credit for your uh, work? But transcribing the lyrics to a song is not exactly some kind of magnum opus of effort.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
read the thread again

op said they transcribed a musical arrangement, like sheet music type of transcription, which is very different

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(Anonymous) 2012-10-09 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
I will point out that even if what they had done was just writing the lyrics by ear, if they're not fluent in Japanese that could also be pretty difficult. Words in songs are often not pronounced clearly, and it can take multiple listenings to catch it all, sometimes, especially if it's sung quickly.
Heck, I don't always catch all the lyrics of songs in English, and I *am* fluent.