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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-22 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2181 ]


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[personal profile] mekkio 2012-12-22 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
On the one side, that's depressing. On the supernatural side, hey, at least no one can summon your ghost and make you their slave.
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[personal profile] visp 2012-12-22 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
In the spirit of Christmas, can we not have religion wank over this?
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[personal profile] mekkio 2012-12-22 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really see any wank potential. But, hey, maybe I am naive.

It's just one person's view on life. And OP isn't trying to convert anyone. So, why should people be upset?

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
But they are good lies that say true things, and which can sometimes pay the rent.

The idea of heaven gives comfort to some people.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-12-22 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
So it's better people remain ignorant to the truth, then actually face up to it?

That does not seem like a particularly healthy approach.

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[personal profile] inkdust 2012-12-22 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to break down into little pieces and become parts of other things, like all the other things that are parts of me. I think it's sort of exciting.
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[personal profile] n7of9 2012-12-22 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
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Cool related fact I saw on QI: The average human skeleton replaces itself once every 10 years. So this is already happening. I think it's kind of exciting too.
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[personal profile] deadtree 2012-12-22 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree :) We will all always be around, in some form, no matter what. I think that's the most comforting thing.

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mte

(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Well where I live nobody ever talks to me about heaven, but if they did I could probably come up with something more diplomatic than "It's a pretty lie". I guess that's why this is a secret.
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[personal profile] diorama 2012-12-23 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't see it a big *shock* secret.

I tell everyone I know that it's just a story that humans tell each other because they afraid of death. Basically, the whole reason for religion.

I particularly like to tell that to the bible bashers who knock on my door.
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And this is the sort of thing that makes me have a compete meltdown because I DON'T UNDERSTAND NOT EXISTING. I'm starting to have a panic attack right now. I'd rather think "Yes I'll continue somewhere else" because I'd rather do that than just... not be.

I don't understand the point of it otherwise, you know? I don't like the thought of death. At all. I'd rather lie to myself so I don't have an existential meltdown every two days.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm all for different beliefs, but I don't get why people think heaven is more likely to be a pretty lie than not-heaven being a not-pretty lie.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2012-12-22 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's pretty close to my own ideas on the subject, frankly, but unless the person i'm talking to wants to know what i think, i basically keep mum. Xians who are really *invested* will get shrill and hateful, and that's boring, and you can't always tell if you're talking to a reasonable person or a fanatic.

But if they ask? I will definitely tell them my views on 'heaven'.

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[personal profile] taotrooper 2012-12-23 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Welp.

This is probably the most original and philosophical wank/arguing to ever come from a Loki secret.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm cheerfully agnostic. As far as I'm concerned, I'll find out when I get there, and anything before that is just supposition.

The one thing I do rather like about this thought, though, is that if nothingness is what happens after death, no-one who believed differently will ever know they were wrong. They won't have time. For that matter, no-one who believed in the nothingness will ever know they were right, either. There is something rather egalitarian about that. That there is no triumph of superiority in death, only its simple fact. Heh.

But then, I enjoy the thought of rather a lot of the posited possibilities after death. Reincarnation is a fascinating idea, particularly the versions which cycle through the realisation of self to some distant pure state. I find the idea of an existence dedicated to learning a good one. The idea of subsumation into the base of what is living is also not a bad one. *shrugs* There are many intriguing ideas about what exists after death.

In the lack of knowledge, though, I can't, at least for myself, rate any of them more likely than any other. I cannot say, with honesty, that I believe in any of them, only that there are some I would hope for more than others.

However, since right now the only way one knows for sure is to die, I think I shall not worry so much about it. Whatever happens when I die, I'll deal with it then. Until that time, there's not much point in worrying about things I know nothing about.

OP, apologies for the ramble. If that is what you believe, fair enough. At the current rate of knowledge, you're as likely to be right as anyone, and sooner or later we'll all find out one way or another.

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I've never been able to understand the concept of believing one's soul/consciousness just ceases to exist, personally. It's like...what's sustaining us right now? Why are things "alive" in the first place? Also I find it interesting how most of these conversations regarding the afterlife tend to be either "eternal paradise" or "complete annihilation," especially when there are so many other beliefs, like reincarnation for example. Or the idea of becoming one with God (or whatever you wish to call the idea of a divine, eternal presence that sustains the universe), although this is what many believes Heaven to be.

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AND THEY SAID THERE COULD NEVER BE ORIGINAL WANK FROM A LOKI SECRET

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HAH

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Fuck y'all, I'm reincarnating as a moose.

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-shrugs- If that's your belief that's cool - but I'm glad you're not saying that to other's since that's pretty much calling *their* beliefs a lie. Which, you know...is kinda not cool.

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eaten_by_bears: Rodimus Prime, I am sick and tired of being responsible for the welfare of the entire universe and its outlying suburbs (Default)

[personal profile] eaten_by_bears 2012-12-23 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I say go for it. People who pester you about religion deserve what they get.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The idea of being "gone forever" is actually the most comforting thing ever for me. It's what I tell myself when I'm feeling really hopeless--one day I will just not exist and none of this will matter anymore.
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2012-12-23 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
All I could think when I read this was 'well aren't you just a bundle of joy..'

Seriously, dramatic, much?