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[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-02-05 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
And I think it is weird when people don't take their shoes of at the door...

Why would you walk inside with shoes?

I assume this is a cultural thing?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
def. a cultural thing...the thought of other people's germy, smelly feet wafting around my house is disgusting to me
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-02-05 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
But.. Shoes are dirty, you have stepped in all kinds of disgusting things outside, and then you take that into my house?

Also it is snow here, your shoes are covered in them, I don't want puddles of dirty water lying around my house either. Or mud in the summer...

To add something though, it is pretty normal for people to use slippers and similar inside, but then they are designated "indoor shoes" and you would never take them outside.

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[personal profile] tropermariko 2013-02-05 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I'd rather have smelly feet on my floors than shoes with mud, dirt, and all sorts of other stuff lying on the ground. It's way easier to clean that way, too, especially carpets.

Even places I wouldn't need to take off my shoes, like a hotel room, I do. Just feels better when I do.

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[personal profile] othellia 2013-02-05 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
It is a cultural thing, but for what it's worth I'm with you. In America, I think people on the West Coast generally take them off at the door more than people on the East Coast.
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[personal profile] bombay 2013-02-05 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Not in my experience - I never took my shoes off indoors when I lived in SoCal, but when I moved to NH (where there's a lot more crap to track in), almost everybody takes their shoes off at the door. IDK about further south, but at least in the north-east, it's very common to the point that I feel really wrong walking in a house with my shoes on despite having done it for ~20 years prior.

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm from the east coast, and I've almost never been to anyone's house where this is expected. It seems kind of prissy to me, tbh.
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[personal profile] ginainthekingsroad 2013-02-05 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about [personal profile] bombay, but I also live in Southern California and I think people take off their shoes pretty often. There is a level of informality about it, though. I take my shoes off at my friends' homes, even when there's a smallish house party (with under 30 people). But if I went to a large party at the house of someone I don't know that well (say I went as the guest of a friend of the host), I would probably keep my shoes on. Unless the host specifically instructed everyone to remove them. Or it was a pool party or something, of course.

I did hear the rule of thumb that if you fall asleep (read: pass out) at a party with your shoes on, you were "fair game" for face doodling or other pranks. Keeping your shoes on meant you were planning on leaving, removing them was a sign you intended to stay the night. I went to a party school...

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm from the eastern coast of South Carolina and I DETEST shoes inside of a house.

That said, it's a level of formality thing. If you're at a stranger's home, you don't remove your shoes. If it's your friend's house, you do.

If you're at a small gathering of friends, certainly, but if it's a large party, no matter how well everybody knows one another, you don't take off your shoes.

One of my friends will takes his NASTY-ASS SHOES ONTO PEOPLE'S BEDS and I basically wind up chastising him every time because it's DISGUSTING.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-02-05 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of agree with all this but the main reason I don't take my shoes off is because otherwise me feet get cold. Yeah, I have slippers...I guess I just don't really think about it? Unless I know my shoes are muddy/wet/especially dirty.
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[personal profile] melayka 2013-02-05 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
In my understanding there are two main reasons why we generally keep them on in America:

1) Safety. In school or at work, if there is a fire or robbery or some emergency where you have to run outside, it is safer for you to have your shoes on (if you have to step on debris or glass or hot concrete, or just to enable you to run farther without slowing from foot pain). Your feet are protected for whatever-happens.

2) It's usually considered impolite to remove your shoes at someone else's home unless they invite you to, because it's considered very casual, and implies you are going to relax and stay a long time. A person who barely knows you does not necessarily want you to stay for hours, and also does not want the personal invasion of having your potentially sweaty, smelly feet exposed to them or touching their furniture. Shoes have more bacteria, yes, but they also create a shell between your moist skin and the person whose home you are in. Leaving your shoes on gives the sense you are still fully dressed and can easily and quickly leave if asked. Friends and family are more apt to be okay with you taking your shoes off because they know you/like you/actually want you to stay.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-02-05 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
1. Children in Norway have clearly labelled boxes with their names on with shoes and their jackets hanging over them, so it is fast and effective to make them put on shoes in an emergency (and seriously we love fire drills over here, bot the kinds everyone knows about, only the teachers knows about and then we got the ones where only the fire dept. and the principal know it is a drill). At work we do have our shoes on.

2. Really? I guess that is one way to think. If you are getting past the hallway you take of your shoes and also if you are past the hallway you are in a house to stay for at least a short while and you take your shoes off. I guess with growing up in a society that does this I never thought about feet as dirty, only shoes are dirty in my mind.

Oh and thank you for explaining it to me!

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[personal profile] deadtree 2013-02-05 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
I think you hit the nail on the head with the level of "casual" that Americans perceive when they take off their shoes in someone else's house. I would only ever take off my shoes in a VERY close friend's house, and only rarely, unless I was asked. For me it's less akin to taking off a jacket and more like taking off a main article of clothing. I lived in Japan for years and never really got comfortable with the taking-shoes-off thing, either in houses or in restaurants (I was also always afraid my shoes would get lost in a restaurant lol)

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[personal profile] al28894 2013-02-05 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Dunno about everyone else here, but in Malaysia we don't wear our shoes inside of our houses due to our tropical climate and the kinds of creepy-crawly that we step on them outside. Some of us, like my mother, have taken to using Japanese-style indoor shoes to walk around. As for me, well I hope taking off shoes at hotels around the world is acceptable, because I kinda need a clean surface to pray on. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I used to rent a garden suite (ground level suite that opens into a backyard) and it would drive me crazy when people didn't take off their shoes. You just walked through a muddy lawn to get to my door and I have carpet. It's not like I own a steam cleaner for fucks sake! /rant

That said, it's second nature for me to ask. Where I live the majority of people are first or second generation immigrants, so you never know. Chinese families I knew in school would have a selection of sandals for you to wear inside.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I know this is a thing in some cultures, and I would definitely do it if I was visiting a country like this.

But I'm in the US, I'm in my 40s, and in my whole life I haven't met more than a very small handful of people who expect guests to take off their shoes. I'll do it if they insist, but I don't like it. I have really sensitive feet and I don't like feeling them unprotected. Also I tend to wear high lace-up boots that are a pain in the ass to take off. And my socks don't always match and I don't like having to show that to the world when I wasn't expecting to.

I hate going barefoot or socks-only, so I never do at home until I'm getting ready for bed.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'm with you on this. In an institution, like a school or an office building, people pretty much always wear shoes (though I sometimes would love to take mine off at work), but never in homes. In fact, many people wear boots to work during the winter and then change into "normal" shoes, and there are great big mats just inside the doors for other people to get the snow/whatever off their shoes when they come inside (hello, Canada). I even feel weird wearing dry shoes indoors when I realize I left my keys in the next room and just dash over to grab them.

Really, though, I find shoes uncomfortable for relaxing. I like to sit cross-legged on a couch/armchair/bed, and if I'm wearing shoes they dig in. Plus, shoes make noise. Wearing high heels on a hardwood/tile floor is like playing a tempo block as you walk around. I'll often wear slippers indoors, but never shoes.

So, yeah, it takes me out of a fic more to see it mentioned that characters are wearing shoes than it does to have the potential removal of shoes go unaddressed.

[personal profile] starry_starrrz 2013-02-05 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
I always find people's reactions to shoes on indoors interesting, cos it seems to vary a lot within countries too.

Locally it's completely normal to wear shoes indoors. It's often seen as kind of more polite in a way because strangers don't want your foot sweat (for want of a better term) in their house. It's weird - it's like floors are expected to pick up outside dirt. Even when you clean them they're still 'dirty', like you wouldn't eat something after it had dropped on your kitchen floor. But a stranger's actual feet seems worse than outside dirt.

...I don't think I'm explaining it well, but it's just a really instinctive thing. I'm getting all cringey at the thought of bare feet.
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[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2013-02-05 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Here (Western Canada) generally, it's expected that you'll take your shoes off at the door. Most of that probably just comes from having to wear snow boots for half the year and nobody wants muddy, gross puddles on their floors. Kids at school have indoor and outdoor shoes, they change when they get there. I don't ever remember NOT taking my shoes off at the door, actually.

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I live in a country that isn't very wintery, even in winter. Rain is rare and it usually pretty warm all year round. This means the chances of stepping in mud/puddles/snow aren't very high. It also mean most houses don't have a lot of carpets in them, and the floor is usually bare. In fact, I can't remember one house I've been to in my country that had more carpeting than bare floor.

Yes, shoes can bring in dust and dirt and disgusting things from outside, but unless you live in a hermetically closed box, you'd get those things in anyway. What you wouldn't get anyway is other people's foot-diseases. Which is disgusting.

Also, there's no way of finding out how clean people are at keeping their own house, so waltsing around in my bare feet on some strange surface can give me all sort of foot diseases.
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[personal profile] dancing_clown 2013-02-05 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
All you who say you take your shoes off when you enter a home...HOW DOES THAT WORK? I mean, if a family is getting home all at the same time, for instance?

I'm just trying to envision four people crammed into a mudroom, trying to stand around on one foot while untying and removing shoes before daring to enter the house proper, and I really, really can't

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
The last city I lived in used salt for de-icing, but the city I live in now uses grit. If you wear your shoes past the hallway it trails everywhere and then you are walking over tiny, sharp pebbles in your socked feet until you clean the floor. :(

Shoes off at the door or never return!

(Anonymous) 2013-02-05 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I always imagine that people who wear their shoes in their own and other people's homes must have really sweaty, smelly, disgusting (and probably yeasty) feet since they keep them inside their sweaty shoes all day long. Where I live, people take off their shoes and walk around in their socks, and I rarely encounter anyone with smelly feet, so I have a hard time thinking of feet as the filthy things some other people seem to.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-06 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I on the other hand, think it's weird as hell when visitors take their shoes off before entering a house. Like, you're only staying a little while, then you're leaving, why the hell would you take the time to take off the things you need to walk outside in when you're going to have to put them back on soon? Unless they were wet or muddy, I don't get it.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-06 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
This thread is hilarious to me, because mum always goes on about how uncivilised it is of dad to take his shoes off before coming into the house.

She thinks it's a) stupid to leave your shoes outside where they could get stolen and b) dirty (and stupid) to leave them outside where they could get bugs crawling all over them. and c) a waste of time.

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