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fandomsecrets2013-07-24 06:43 pm
[ SECRET POST #2395 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2395 ⌋
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[The Most Popular Girls in School]
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[Welcome to Night Vale]
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[Gerard Way and Frank Iero]
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[Mastumoto Jun]
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[Macdonald Hall]
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[Downton Abbey]
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[Generator Rex]
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[Neil Oliver]
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[Star Trek]
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[Star Trek: TNG]
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[The Vampire Diaries]
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Any creepy admirers, FS?
(Anonymous) 2013-07-24 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Any creepy admirers, FS?
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 12:11 am (UTC)(link)I'm still just sitting here wondering what to do about that...
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 12:12 am (UTC)(link)Re: Any creepy admirers, FS?
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Draw pornography of them with slenderman and cthulhu and send it to them.
As for good advice? I don't know. I don't really have any. Do you tell them to fuck off? Or do you do it in a nice way? Do you post what they did (without the artwork) and publically shame them? Or do you blur out their name and use it as an example for your other fans on what not to do? Do you do anything?
I'm not really good at this sort of thing because I would be too pissed off at the person for thinking that what they did was okay in any way.
Your best bet would probably be to ask other famous youtubers what you should do since I'm assuming some have been put in a similar position so they can speak from experience.
Anyway, best of luck. My sympathies.
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First of all, tell them in no uncertain terms that that is inappropriate and creepy and not acceptable.
After that...I don't know. I've never been in a situation like that. Good luck, I hope you figure it out. I feel like that happens a lot to well-known people...I wish people weren't so damn creepy...
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 12:12 am (UTC)(link)Luckily, it was near the end of the school year. The following year, he took to walking past me really quickly whenever he saw me, and the year after that, he told me he was now being treated by a psychiatrist. I wasn't surprised (bear in mind that I'm giving you a light version) but I was glad he was getting the help he needed. We made peace.
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 12:22 am (UTC)(link)Once I realized that A) I was never going to get anything like police protection unless and until he actually DID something to me (this was years before the really heavy anti-stalking legislation came in) and B) after a few years of this, he never actually DID do anything, I decided to stop being afraid. Either he would shit or get off the pot, and I would have the evidence I needed to go to the police and lock his scummy ass up forever and throw away the key, or nothing would happen. Either way, I win.
Why did this buttcrack of society stalk me for over four years, you ask? Because I talked to him for five minutes in the cafeteria one day.
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 12:42 am (UTC)(link)Re: Any creepy admirers, FS?
(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 12:43 am (UTC)(link)I am one of the anons (there's at least two of us) who sometimes post secrets about finding amputation hot. I'm basically an amputee fetishist (which are also called devotees in the lingo). There are also people who have a sort of body dysmorphia and want to be amputees (we call those wannbe's). When I was 17, back when the internet was far younger, I used to connect with other devotees and wannabe's online through forums and stuff. So, one time I get connected by a wannabe who lived relatively close to me. The guy was 10 years my senior, but fair enough, seemed cool at the time. We hung out a bit. Chatted. We hd another mutual friend we did stuff with. It was cool at first. But, over time I realize this guy has this really creepy idea in his head that he's going to become an amputee and that will make me fall in love with him and we'll be together.
Like, this dude is OLD compared to me, has a kid from a previous marriage, not my type and dear lord I'm just so not interested.
He went on to have like two other "girlfriends" at the same time, possibly to make me jealous, I dunno, one of which actually helped him stage an "accident" to amputate his leg. He ended up impregnating one of them, and I was even invited to his wedding and stuff. She ended up leaving him after he wanted more amputations.
He tried to contact me again over the years, but I'm glad it frizzled out. He's a triple amputee now, pretty fat and wheelchair bound. Also, lot of crazy there. I so dodged a bullet.
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A couple weeks later, after no physical contact and the odd brief conversation, he crammed his finger as far into my navel as he could (though two layers of clothing, thank goodness, so it wasn't far). I said I didn't want to play that game anymore, so please stop. He didn't. I caught him staring at me, looking agitated and fidgety several times, and he kept trying to stuff his finger into my navel. I had to say, "You will not touch me again" several times before he finally stopped, and I just didn't hang out around that side of the circle, anymore. I still see him when all of our friends get together, but it's once every three-ish years and we don't talk beyond initial greetings.
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 01:01 am (UTC)(link)Re: Any creepy admirers, FS?
So this guy used to follow me around. Like, he would follow me all day around school and only be a few feet away at max. He also would try to gift me things. He almost dominated any conversation we were in in order to earn my affection. He stood too close and couldn't take any hint I wasn't interested. Occasionally he would say inappropriate things that scared me. (This was his rarest trait.) He denied what he was doing.
I tried a few things but the best option, for me, was to be very direct about it. Unfortunately I was too chicken shit at the time to do that myself so I had my friends help me. They confronted him and told him what he was doing was not cool. He wised up, was extremely embarrassed, and never did that to any girl ever again. We're still friends and I think not only did he learn from it but I did too. I learned about being more direct and about relying on other people when you need to. (Something that was hard for me at the time.) His social skills have only improved over the years and he even apologized to me.
So that's my really benign story.
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The most recent one was a 30-year-old guy who started hitting on me when I was barely 18 and asked me out like 20 times... he seemed to think that "No, I don't like you that way" meant "I want to get to know you better." Whenever I said anything like "Look, I said no, you can't force me to change my mind by asking me over and over" he laughed condescendingly and said "Haha, American women always say that."
Silly American women, thinking they have the right to say "no" to a man and everything... I was kind of scared of him after that but I felt like I had to be nice to him anyway because we had class together, worked together, and lived in the same dorm and I saw him everywhere. Thankfully he graduated and went back to his home country...
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 01:29 am (UTC)(link)I didn't even realize how bad it'd gotten until the annual local scifi con and I went with my band friends the first day and him the next. The first day was full of tempers and drama since there were about eight of us, and yet at the end of the day I'd had so much fun. The second day everything felt so restricted and just... it felt like he was escorting/guarding me, rather than taking part things for his own enjoyment (and he was a geek so it wasn't like a dragged him), but overall I just felt... watched? I don't know how to fully describe it.
Anyways, I pretty much panicked and the next day or so told him super bluntly that - while I enjoyed his friendship - I'd never see him in that way. I still feel guilty about that; I don't regret the confession, but I could've been a lot softer in my words. Oh and I said I need some temporary space.
After that is when things pretty much rolled downhill.
He didn't come to class the next day. Cornered me in a hallway the day after to clarify what I meant and how long was "temporary". (I apologized for the bad wording then, but didn't back down from my meaning since it was the truth.) The day after that he told me that he hadn't eaten or slept since my original confession. Oh, and he asked me if he could still drop by on my birthday that weekend (WHICH I NEVER INVITED HIM TO IN THE FIRST PLACE). Didn't talk to me for the rest of the week.
Next Monday he asked if I'd accompany him to his car (which was on the edge of campus and about a 20min walk there and a separate 20min back) and got offended when I said 'no'. He then waited almost two hours for me after my final lab of the day to give me a birthday present, a hand-knitted Dalek plushie. I debated on taking it or not since I knew each choice was super loaded with how he'd perceive it and was about to accept it when he asked me, and I quote, "when the fuck are you going to get over this shit?"
I essentially blew up at him, 99% of my guilt flying out the window right then and there. I shoved the Dalek plushie straight back at him and told him he could do whatever he wanted with it as well as a bunch of other stuff I can't remember too well anymore. He didn't come to school at all for the next week and when he did, thank god, he simply ignored me.
All things considered, it could've gone a lot smoother, but it also could've gone a lot lot worse. I think I lucked out as far as bad one-sided experiences go while still being able to carry all the lessons I learned from it.
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 01:57 am (UTC)(link)There has been a couple of incidents that has really creeped me out however. The worst being when a guy made creepy comments and then proceeded to stalk me around a mall for about an hour. It was so creepy, and even though I managed to lose him a couple of times I just saw him looking around after something, and lightening up if he caught sight of me. The most creepy part of it was that he had these squeaky boots, so I knew if he was after me. Let's just say that that squeaky sound has haunted my nightmares more than once.
Luckily, this was quite an isolated experience for me. I can't even imagine how horrible it must be to have a full-time stalker:(
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 03:10 am (UTC)(link)She said some vaguely inappropriate things, but it wasn't until she made a journal entry about how she wanted to write a fic that would trigger people that shit finally hit the fan and I ended up blocking her. I have since come to believe that she really didn't understand what "trigger" actually means, but she continually gave off such creepster vibes that I'm more than happy to be done with her either way.
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When I hit college, all of a sudden it was like all the dudes noticed I was a woman. I'd had a grand total one one person (my then-long-term-boyfriend) ever admit any attraction to me in high school, and only one other person who I had reason to think was attracted to me.
I'm sure part of the reason is that I often hang out in nerdy spaces dominated by guys - namely, Yu-Gi-Oh! (the number of men/boys whose thought process goes "likes YGO, has rudimentary tits and nice face? SO HAWT" is staggering) - but it's happened in other places too, like work. Usually though it's nbd. There was one dude, though, who I met through a YGO friend. We had a group of friends who hung out a few times a couple summers ago. This dude was at the local card shop I go to for tourneys and my friend and I were joking; we had a "soap opera" going on with some of us where we pretended I was "married" to him and his wife was "married" to another friend in the group (it was really silly and completely un-serious) and he made a silly comment like "that's no way to treat your husband!" The creepy dude was like "wait" and I laughed and said "I'm not really married to him; it's a joke. In fact he's married to someone else." And the dude was like "oh, good. Raichu's mine."* I think my jaw just about hit the floor - like, "excuse you?!?!?"
After that when we went to the park and I hung out with another male friend he got really jealous and said he didn't like the other friend (who I wasn't doing anything with but HANGING OUT).
Oh, and there was yet another dude - connected to the same group - who asked me out online through his brother and got really offended when I said no, to the point of being angry at me and taking it out on me later with rude remarks.
I never felt threatened by any of this, but the level of entitlement some dudes have towards women is mind-boggling. I'm not an object you can buy at a store, so FUCK OFF.
*actual dialogue - my nickname in that group was Raichu, which is also my online handle in most places
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 03:52 am (UTC)(link)it didn't help that I was also a radio dj, on a small station in a small midwestern market, so I also attracted creepy fans on top of regular run of the mill creeps. one snuck into the studio before my shift one day (the building had multiple businesses in it, so there were public entrances) and left a rose on the mixing board with a note hoping we could date. I freaked out and ran to the PD and we instituted a policy to watch our entrance much better.
but I also had this reeeaally creepy dude with no boundaries living in the apartment beneath mine. He tried to hit on me multiple times when I was downstairs doing my laundry, and also tried to invite himself into my apartment to "listen to me practice" when I was derping around with a guitar one day. he wasn't the only one, but he was the most persistent and I felt so good the day I finally moved out of that apartment.
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 04:01 am (UTC)(link)I swear this guy was not rational in the least. He even tried to convince me at one point that he didn't want to move to my city because of me, but my city has literally NOTHING interesting, no job opportunities, it's a small-as-shit little town in buttfuck nowhere Canada. Yeah right.
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 04:29 am (UTC)(link)I shit you not. It would've been weird and embarrassing if it'd been a teenager but it was a grown ass woman. She was very huffy when I put her off and wouldn't tell her my real name or address but JFC COME ON LADY QUIT CREEPING.
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There's also a clerk at the local guitar store who leers at me, calls me "baby," and randomly discounts things when I shop there. He doesn't actually follow me around the store, but he stares at me the entire time I'm in there; he does this to a couple of other ladies in our social circle, too, but not all of us. I stopped going except when I'll be there with several male companions and the guy who does the ordering for the store (who's a friend of a friend) will be there, too.
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)Anyway, people like to anon me their sex stories. Either stuff detailing how I made them so hot they had to go wake up their SO to fuck their brains out (details excised to save your brains) or stories about that one time they were tied up and teased/spanked/fucked/whatever the hell my story was about.
All my friends find it funny, but I'm starting to think I should just stop writing fic entirely. That shit is creepy over my morning coffee.
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