[ SECRET POST #2407 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2407 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/nwaqSQR.png

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't one of the reasons he went all cannibal because of his sister being killed?

[siofrabunnies]

Worse. He was unknowingly fed stew made of his sister.

[deadtree]

in what universe was Abigail innocent? And he killed her when she figured him out.

I mean I'm not defending him, I'm just defending the writers.

[(Anonymous)]

I think OP's referring to Hannibal's first in-show kill, when he copycatted Garrett Jacob Hobbs to see what Will would do.

[(Anonymous)]

He didn't kill Abigail to see what would happen, though? He killed her because she "knew too much" and could've implicated him in several murders, and he's pretty self-interested, if nothing else. So, as you say, she "posed a threat to his survival".

(Unless you mean Abigail's friend, but she called her mother a bitch, so.)

[(Anonymous)]

I find it hard to believe that all nine of the [known] patients he murdered were a legitimate threat to his survival.

I love Hannibal, but he is unspeakably cruel. I hold with the above [Abigail was indeed a threat, knew-too-much etc.] but even if she were entirely innocent [she was not], I don't think it's a far leap from most anything else he did.

He ate the eyeball and tongue of some random nurse. Hannibal considers himself a gentleman, but his moral code is very twisted.

Same Anon

[(Anonymous)]

And if the OP is talking about Abigail's friend-- also above: she called her mother a bitch, and you can quite literally see Hannibal decide to off her.

[(Anonymous)]

The original books weren't written from Hannibal's POV, and he did a lot of horrible things. He is not a sympathetic character and I doubt if there's anything he's not capable of.

We must also remember that the addition of Hannibal's sister was done by a movie director, not Thomas Harris:

The February 22, 2007 issue of Entertainment Weekly features a quote that suggests that the only reason Thomas Harris wrote the story was out of the fear that a Lecter prequel/origin story would inevitably be written without his involvement. Hannibal Rising film producer Dino De Laurentiis said "I say to Thomas, 'If you don't do [the prequel], I will do it with someone else...I don't want to lose this franchise. And the audience wants it...' He said, 'No. I'm sorry.' And I said, 'I will do it with somebody else.' And then he said, 'Let me think about it. I will come up with an idea.'"[2]

[(Anonymous)]

But wasn't Hannibal written prior to Hannibal Rising? The specifics of his sister's demise might have been written on the fly, but she did exist, was mentioned prior to the prequel.

[(Anonymous)]

From the Hannibal (book) wiki:

Using a regimen of psychotropic drugs and behavioral therapy, Lecter attempts to brainwash Starling, hoping to make her believe she is Mischa, returned to life. She ultimately proves too strong, however, and tells him that Mischa will have to live on within him.

Mischa was not an addition by a movie director.

[(Anonymous)]

No, Harris wrote the story by himself. He was just told that if he didn't, someone else would.

[(Anonymous)]

Hannibal is very much a sympathetic character. Harris all but made him a woobie in the latter books.

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is Hannibal Lecter from the TV show "Hannibal". He is a man with tanned skin and short dark hair parted on the side. He is wearing a gray suit with a brown tie and a light blue shirt. He is looking upwards, a light shining down on him. He looks like he might kind of smiling a little.]

I love Mads but I hate what they've done to Hannibal. Hannibal wouldn't kill innocent teenager girls to see what would happen. He kills people who offend him or pose a threat to his survival. He's not a "good" guy but he doesn't kill children either.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know where any one gets the idea that Hannibal has some specific rules he follows. He's not Dexter.

[(Anonymous)]

Because if you 'offend' Hannibal, that makes you not innocent or something? I think most of the people he's killed have been innocent. That's what makes him terrifying.

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[(Anonymous)]

Cassie Boyle was pretty rude in the original script (pp 38-40): http://www.zen134237.zen.co.uk/Hannibal_1x01_-_Pilot.pdf
I think he did look for a Abigail look-alike for demonstrational purposes, but only chose Cassie after finding out how rude she was.
Marissa called her mother 'bitch' and he quite obviously disapproved of that.
Abigail had found out about him (or would have sooner or later) and therefore presented a threat to him.

And yes, Cassie's and Marissa's deaths served his curiosity about Will and Abigail, but I doubt he would have killed them if he didn't think they deserved being impaled on antlers and made into fancy chicken wings anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

Lololol. I'm pretty sure you're woobifying Hannibal Lecter. Then again, internet and fangirls.

The man isn't Dexter.

[otakugal15]

Agreed.

As a psychology major...

[elephantinegrace]

I've learned that the part of the brain that allows the person to consider consequences beyond the immediate (the frontal lobe) isn't fully developed until a person's 25. I'm pretty sure as a psychiatrist, and a damned good one, Hannibal knows that. And the show has proven that he has some sort of code of ethics; from the little I have seen (and gifs on Tumblr), I'm pretty sure there's a guy who's constantly making passes at Hannibal, but isn't ever outright rude, so he isn't eaten. Factor in that his sister was killed, I find it very OOC that Hannibal would kill a teenage girl.

[(Anonymous)]

Different people have different interpretations of the character, OP. Yours isn't necessarily correct.

Also: we never actually saw Abigail's death on-screen. It was pretty heavily implied, with the ear and the blood and everything, but in Writer Land, if we haven't actually seen the death, then there's still a chance she's alive.

[(Anonymous)]

On the face of it, I agree with this secret. Reading the comments, not so much.

He always had specific reasons for killing people and my problem with the show was that those reasons either weren't clear to me or they didn't feel like the character I've read about.

But would Hannibal Lecter kill a teenage girl? Yes. Yes he would.

[cloud_riven]

I thought part of Hannibal fandom was about everyone picking and choosing what canons are acceptable to them, and disregarding any combination of the books or movies. Kind of like Doctor Who fans and their My Doctor thing, except it's a My Doctor Lecter My Serial Killer thing.

Basically what I'm saying is that your fanon sucks.

[croik]

There may not be any book record of Hannibal specifically killing teenage girls, but he did tell Dolarhyde point blank to kill Will and his family, knowing that Will had a young son. You can't assign any moral code to him.