[ SECRET POST #2518 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2518 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

04. http://i.imgur.com/g0RgQoL.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I understand why video games sometimes have a MC with weak characterization, especially RPGs, but yeah I'm kind of tired of the insert-able protagonists myself. I've find it a lot more fun when a MC has a fun personality and does stuff that doesn't match up with how I think.

[kaijinscendre]

This is the problem with most of Welcome to Night Vale's fandom wars.

[queerwolf]

yep. luckily most of the fandoms I've been active in have avoided this.

[ketita]

Yeah, this trend is getting on my nerves as well.
I think the most dramatic example was this tumblr that was doing some kind of experiment idk, basically providing some huge number of just character designs. And it had a fandom. Like people were getting all excited about these /character designs/ with no personality and no nothing.
I see that with AUs, too, I mean why else would all these random AUs with no connection to the original but character names be so popular?

I don't want to tell people how to enjoy or not enjoy their fandom, but I wish more people cared about solid canons and canon-related fanworks.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree so hard. It's tedious being in a fandom where everyone is running blind and then starting wank over their headcanons. I also just don't get the appeal of having to put effort into a character that is supposed to be fully realized-- I'd rather leave that for video games, where at least I get to be active in the story, or create my own :/

[littlestbirds]

This trend annoys and confuses me too, because of the priorities it represents. The "characterizations" people fangirl over are like the same cringe-worthy flat and clicheed characterisations that show up in AUs for fandoms that do have a lot of canon to draw from. I am in fandom because I want more complexity out of the worlds I'm invested in, not less...

[bored_bitch]

I like creating headcanon characterizations for characters with little of it, because it's fun.

But actually having fandom wars over it is pretty stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

This is why Clint/Coulson in MCU bothers me so much. After Avengers that pairing exploded, but both characters had such limited screen time and character development. It really seemed like people just liked the idea of random fill-in-the-blank white male co-workers that they could write whatever they wanted about. I know, I know, don't like? don't read. But it still bugged me to see all of that and less about other characters in that universe that weren't fandom darlings.

[(Anonymous)]

This is how I feel about Loki/Tony. MCU!Steve/Tony too, to a lesser extent. The interactions they had were barely anything, and fandom just ran with it (in a bad direction, for the most part.)

[ninety6tears]

I think it's awesome that fandom is a place to flesh out the minor characters, but I don't like how often this turns into a lot of authors copy-catting each other's characterizations. Cause to an extent it's fun to create a sort of sub-fandom off of one fanon, but it also easily makes somebody feel like the odd one out for seeing it differently.

[(Anonymous)]

OMG THIS. I don't mind a bunch of different headcanons but it's like fandom reaches a consensus without any proof, and I'm left scratching my head like this isn't at all how I saw the character but now I can't escape it.

[(Anonymous)]

This is exactly how I feel about a lot of my current fandoms, to be honest. It's like people latch on to one or two headcanons, and I'm trying to figure out where that came from, and why That particular bit of fanon rather than something I like better.

[forgottenjester]

Eh, I don't care. It's a style. Styles come and go. Whatever.

I'm much rather count off stuff like this. So, so far I've got Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect, Welcome to Night Vale, Pokemon. Can anyone name others? I know there are more but I'm blanking.

[(Anonymous)]

Vocaloid

I have yet to understand headcanon wars

[nyxelestia]

Like, it's a headcanon. It's supposed to be fun and something you think of for yourself or use in fanfics. I get that some headcanons become popular and end up as fanons, but still - neither one is canon. Why try to pretend otherwise?

[(Anonymous)]

And suddenly the popularity of fan nations in Hetalia fandom fits a pattern.

[(Anonymous)]

Much agreed.

[(Anonymous)]

this isn't new. people have fought about headcanons for harry potter characters when all we knew was their names.

[diet_poison]

There are several, but the only canons?

And even then with some of them it's limited.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. Usually what draws me into any piece of work is my connection to the characters. So if they're bland, I'm bored.

But I'd rather people who want to project do it on blank slates rather than writing characters I like OOC.

[(Anonymous)]

I like it and I don't. I mean it's nice that at least in games people are fairly tolerant of different MCs. (Except those that freak out if your Mass Effect character isn't a woman)

Other the other hand, yeah people do get way out there and weird with their ideas for their characters.

I also really really hate shipping the MC in games with PCs. It feels so freaking wrong yet so many games now are starting to include it. I know *I* don't have to do it but most of the art/fic ends up being "my special snowflake character fucks the character I want to fuck." Usually with canon rending OOC craziness. The game I'm thinking of specifically has little to no fic of canon pairings and one character is obviously the fandom's choice for fuckbuddy. Don't even think about trying to find fic that is actually about the plot of the game.

[(Anonymous)]

This is exactly why I have no interest in games like Mass Effect or Dragon Age. The games themselves look interesting and fun as hell, but I HATE blank-slate protagonist characters. I don't want to project onto some blank template, I want to play as a fully-realized character with a defined personality.

[silverau]

See, I LOVE lots-of-blank-slate-characters type fandoms *pokes icon* just because they inspire my imagination. There might be a lot of shows and books that I enjoy because they have well-developed characters and exciting stories... but those are the types of stories that I enjoy while I'm experiencing them and then forget about after. They just... tend to not keep me thinking as much, because the author does all the thinking for me. And thus I don't feel as much of a need to look at fanworks, read other people's headcanons, see different people's takes on it, explore my own take on it through fanfic, et cetera.

I agree that it's pretty stupid to have fandom wars over headcanons, but there is a reason those things are popular, and there's nothing wrong with it.

[cloud_riven]

I'm okay with it. Minor characters with neat designs, but little used in the source material, get their fanworks running that way (Hetalia, Homestuck, Pokemon, Welcome to Night Vale, etc.). It's filling in the spaces that aren't covered by the canon that make it so ripe for fandom.

And, for me, it's nice to read a long fic about where the author details some kind of history that totally doesn't exist and will totally be up for jossing because I don't have to be distracted by ooc dialogue or whatever. I like my metas and other fanworks based on established and developed canons of course, but I tend to be arbitrarily picky as I'm prone to whinging about them not jiving my own canons of headness, or the actual show characterization.

on the other hand, jfc what the hell is wrong with WTNV fandom? they be layers of cray. i getchu op :U