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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-09 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2564 ]


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[personal profile] 233c 2014-01-10 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, yeah, that's exactly what they're saying.

I'm sick of stupid privileged white western kids who bang on how Israel is the Evil Empire oppressing the Plucky Rebel Palestinians. Way to buy into what's essentially anti-Semite propaganda.

OP is fucking ignorant and this secret is stupid and offensive.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Criticizing Israel is not automatically anti-Semitic. It is possible to acknowledge the awful things Jews have gone through and their right to have their own country and to be free from oppression (with the caveat that the Palestinians have the same right) and still think their policies and treatment of Palestinians is awful.
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[personal profile] 233c 2014-01-10 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Re-read the secret, and then re-read my post. Come back when you're done.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
No.

Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic. You can see someone being anti-Semitic in the thread below. But criticizing Israel's policies and thinking that they are, on balance, unjust to the Palestinians is not. No state, no organized body, no institution, no entity in this world is perfect or beyond criticism. Reasonable people can disagree on this issue and can make arguments on both sides. It's not anti-Semitic if you agree with one side. It can become anti-Semitic, and we should watch for and criticize and expunge any trace of that, but it is not anti-Semitic. Don't do this.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
But OP is not criticizing Israel's policies. OP is criticizing an actress for being Israeli.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
baby killer pls and stay go

btdubs accusing peopl eof being racist to the jewish community, the most racist community in any large multicultural city? Top lel gurl, top lel
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-01-10 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
It's really hard to take you seriously when you type like that.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Nonnie, how much have you been drinking tonight?

NAYRT

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[personal profile] 233c 2014-01-10 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Happy 12th birthday.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Good goyim

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Critizing Israel isn't automatically antisemitic... And what the hell does race have to do with anything (particularly since it's not just whites who do it).

Frankly, I'm tired of people screaming that legit criticisms are that simply because of the country they are aimed at. Also, criticizing Israel =/=automatically viewing Palestinians the way you mentioned.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no. There is a reason why only Americans tend to vehemently be Israeli occupation supporters.

PS, most Israelis are western and white.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh look, it's the good old "Americans suddenly arbitrarily decided that Jews are white after years of treating them as non-white, therefore your argument is invalid."

Americans don't support Israel because they consider Israelis white. They support Israel because they want all the Jews to go there so Americans won't have to deal with them anymore.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
BULL.SHIT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel#Ethnic_and_religious_groups

Most Israelis (54.4%) are either Middle Eastern or African but please, please do go on believer your very simplistic Israel = White Oppressor bullshit propaganda.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
Most Israelis are NOT White and Western, they are also tan or dark and Sephardic/Misrachi Jews.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
You really need to find a better response to criticism of Israeli brutalities than shaking your pink hairbrush while crying "anti-Semitism!"

You are minimizing actual anti-Semitism.
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[personal profile] 233c 2014-01-10 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
That's... not what I'm doing? Israeli brutality and anti-Israel propaganda have little relation to one another.

When I hear about Israeli soldiers tying a Palestinian kid to the hood of their jeep because he and his friends wouldn't stop throwing rocks at them, that just strikes me as a PR coup for Hamas, especially if you don't mention the rocks part. But anti-Israel propaganda includes accusations of genocide and other such nonsense and goes back to the 1940s before there even was an Israel.

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(i agree with you)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
You sound SO angry and this is clearly a little comment war going on at this point...but I do agree with what you're saying, if not the wording

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
No 233c, you are the stupid privileged white western kids.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
....pretty sure BOTH sides are blowing each other up/killing each other because of religious differences, tbph.
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[personal profile] 233c 2014-01-10 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
No argument there. :/ If hardliners on both sides were to go (Hamas and hawks) things might work out. But with elements on both sides causing trouble it's just making everything worse.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
just wanted to say, thanks for trying. I've long since given up on the average LIBERALLLLLLLLLLL internet denizen understanding the situation, like, at all. I mostly steer clear of this stuff, 'cause it just ups my blood pressure for no reason. But at least somebody still speaks up...

The fact is, most of these people have no clue just how biased the media is, because 99% of the time nobody even calls it out. They'll condone murder of Israeli children because somehow they deserve it. I don't understand how they don't hear themselves, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yes the media is pro-Palestinian and you are being oppressed for being so special. Spare me.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
agreed!!!!! Thank you.