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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-24 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2610 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2610 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies]


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[Twin Peaks]


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[DC Comics, Strix and Batgirl]


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[my mad fat diary]


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[Sekai Seifuku]


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[Lindsey Stirling]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Attack on Titan]


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[How to Train Your Dragon]


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[Figure Skating]


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[A Wild Endeavour]


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[American Horror Story]


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[The Americans]

















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(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know this show, but as as someone who's once been on the verge of being committed:

-OP, educate yourself and know your rights in terms of what local laws are.

- In many places they cannot hold you against your will unless you're a danger to others or yourself. So even if you feel you are, never admit to this. Lie if you have to.

-If you are a minor and believe your parents would have you committed find an adult advocate that will have your best interest at heart.

-If you are an adult and are financially able, try to find help for your issues on your own terms. If you're not, try to find coping strategies until you can

-I know people might hate my for saying this, but I believe getting committed is not in your best interest even if you have issues. My friends who were did not come out for the better. Do not let yourself be talkied into it voluntarily (they will do that if they have no legal reason to commit you). Stay strong and best of luck.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
" So even if you feel you are, never admit to this. Lie if you have to."

This is terrible advice

(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
If you're on the verge of being committed, for the sake of self-preservation, it's what you need to do. Not saying you shouldn't seek help for it at another point, but priorities.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2014-02-25 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
If you are a DANGER to other people you damn well should NOT lie about it!

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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-02-25 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to claim that there are no problems with these places but I know people who had good experiences with them. Painting them as universally bad is no more helpful than ignoring the problems and pretending they will make all your medical issues go away.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
There are other ways of dealing with your medical issues than getting committed.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-02-25 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
There are and OP should definitely look into those. Different things work for different people and they should explore their options. But one of those options is an institution if they are a danger to themselves or others.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
They don't just commit people for funsies, though. Being committed means that doctors have assessed you and come to the conclusion that you're at immediate risk of hurting yourself or others. By the time it gets to that point, it usually is in the person's best interest to get help right away rather than wait.

I have two friends who were committed for being suicidal and I have no doubt that it saved their lives. They had reached a point where it was not safe for them not to be in treatment before they did something to hurt themselves, and they each recognized this fact when they got out.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. In-patient may not work for everyone (certainly not for me*), but I've seen many people who it has helped, but I've also seen people who have been committed because not only were they a danger to themselves, but were likely to take people with them on their way out. And, that's the nicest way I can word that.

*My personal experience was 3 years in-patient. I was a drooling mess throughout it and I experienced more depression when I was attacked by another kid and put in solitary for a week. Walls. For days.
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(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I was just going to comment -- I had a very positive outcome on being committed. The one caveat to that is, I may have lucked out on the particular hospital I was committed to.
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(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Everything I said is absolutely true. It might not be in line with your experience, but that doesn't make it bullshit.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, it's bullshit.

Dangerous bullshit to be preaching to strangers.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
no, it's bullshit.
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[personal profile] blunderbuss 2014-02-25 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
And thank fuck that you're here in it, [personal profile] stella_down, because if you weren't in here flushing this toxic bullshit down the drain then I would've had an aneurysm. I cannot believe this shit.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
It really bothers me the way you word these advice as though they were commandments. You've never actually been committed as you admit in your first sentence, so your experience isn't even a complete picture, and you're encouraging people to become so scared of the very concept of something (you haven't experienced) that they must resist help even when they feel they're a danger to others. That's crap.

The most you should be able to tell OP is that facility stay may not work out for everyone and they should be careful with their rights. This experience varies greatly from person to person, but positive outcomes are not impossible. Someone could end up with a temporary stay before being released into outpatient (like me), or even experience a good inpatient program.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I ain't no Moses, OP you do with it what they want.

In any case, finding out what your rights are and making sure you have an advocate with your best interests in mind is always a good idea anyway.
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(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
hey cannot hold you against your will unless you're a danger to others or yourself. So even if you feel you are, never admit to this. Lie if you have to.

WHOA. what the actual fuck. if you're a danger to others, fuck yes, you should be locked up!!!
this "advice" is disgusting.
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[personal profile] opalinesque 2014-02-25 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Chiming in as another person who has previously been in a mental hospital—both as a voluntary and involuntary admission—to say that this is not great advice. The hospital I went to was a wonderful place where I learned how to handle my own depression and self-destructive tendencies in a more constructive way/get my meds adjusted in a "safe" environment— IE one where I didn't have to worry about outside responsibilities. It was very helpful to me.

The one thing anon is completely right in that you should educate yourself, if you can. Find out what programs/hospitals are near you, whether there are any that sound better to you or if there are any that you would really like to avoid. Ask other people who have been committed what their experiences were, to try and take the fear out of the experience.

There is no shame in getting outside help with things that you're having trouble handling yourself.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
This is great advice and your icon is adorable!

Do you mind me asking where it's from?

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-25 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
And this is how you give advice based on your personal experience without looking like a douche.

I'm glad you're feeling better.

- Other anon who has had positive experience with the system

(Anonymous) 2014-02-26 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Do not let yourself be talkied into it voluntarily (they will do that if they have no legal reason to commit you).

I 100% agree with this.

I was once talked into going into a mental institution. I realised afterwards it was because as you said, they didn't have enough to commit me. They pulled this trick repeatedly throughout my stay, then denied it outright when I left, saying no one had ever done this - which I found out later is also a trick of theirs.

So don't make my mistake. Educate yourself.

I suggest having a 'buddy' who has agreed beforehand will take a phone call at any time, and will get you out of hospital if the worst comes to the worst. That's the method I use now.

In hospital, they pumped me full of dangerous drugs (they had misdiagnosed me, then increased my medication each time I told them it was not working and the drugs were having a bad effect on my condition). The side effects of the inappropriate drugs remained with me for years. I could not work for a long time just because of the side effects.

Mental health professionals really don't have a clue about the brain - which the good ones admit. Treatments remain barbaric. I personally witnessed bullying of patients, electric shock therapy without consent, patients being attacked/molested etc - I witnessed this all. It was common. It's not a dramatic narrative device for melodramatic movies. It really happens.

Many of the nurses seeemed to see the patients as subhumans without proper feelings. There were good nurses as well, but it only takes one to ruin your life when you're vulnerable and not allowed to leave their abuse.

I will never, ever go into a mental hospital again. Perhaps patient care will improve in 100 years time. At the moment it's not there.

They had a saying in the hospital 'if you're not mad when you come in, you will be once you've been here'. This was the nurses joking about the patients. They knew that staying there made patients a lot worse. Yet nothing was done. The good nurses could do nothing but watch it happen.

Don't do it. Don't be like me. Don't go in. Educate yourself about your rights. They like to get you when you're vulnerable so do your research when you're well.

If you have a doctor who doesn't admit he/she is pretty much in the dark about mental illness, change them immediately. Bad doctors think they have all the answers and will promise to cure you if you do what they say. Watch out for these people: they are highly dangerous and can ruin your life.

I have a good doctor now who works with me and stops any medication when it isn't working. But the damage from before has been already done and will stay with me physically, probably forever (over 10 years later, I still have side effects from the wrongly prescribed medication).